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[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

What brings me back to my uni days is getting a 0% on an AI assignment because the lecturer ran a poorly written script and if you crashed that script, he'd have to manually restart it (which was what he was upset about.. doing his job. He didn't even check the code, or try to run each test independently).

And now AI is about writing buggy code that regularly crashes and performs poorly.

The crap I learnt in AI turned out to be totally useless anyway (especially Lisp, which we had to learn ourselves and nobody ever uses)

[–] shoo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I once had a professor who claimed she passed a high level language course without attending a class or studying it. She was fluent in an adjacent Romance language and knew a little of some other overlapping languages. Basically walked in to the final and got a C+ on cognates alone.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Just remember everyone, C's get degrees.

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

C's get undergraduate degrees. B- or better gets graduate degrees.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Writing has electrolytes that plants crave!

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We used to knock out ten pages at four in the morning without punctuation.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Editing in the common room or whatever the fuck it was called with a flash drive ready to transfer it to the college printer's computer and get a piping hot copy ten minutes before class started

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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm so sad. People are becoming so reliant on AI that they can't write (nor read) more than one sentence

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[–] eyelevel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Shit, I'll write a 10 page paper as an internet reply to a topic I'm only just finding out about.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

When I was at a party in college a friend was bumming the vibes because he had an English paper due the following Monday and he was stressed out.

I asked him what the topic was and it was any play studied in the course. I asked him which play he knew best and if I recall correctly it was The Importance of Being Earnest.

I chatted with him for a bit, asked him why he liked the play, what it meant to him, what parts he thought were most important, and what he thought was the ultimate point Wilde was making.

After about a half hour I wrote the outline on the back of a placemat.

Intro: state what point your essay will ultimately try to make, and summarize how you'll get there (1 page).

For each "way" that you'll get there, write three paragraphs: your point, what in the text supports your point, and how that point supports the thesis in the intro. (1.5-2 pages).

Do that for each of the four "ways". (6-8 pages total)

Explain why those dozen paragraphs illustrate and support the claims you made in the introduction.

Suffice it to say, the party roared on, he likely wasn't able to think on Saturday but on Sunday I guess he did a pretty good job of bullshitting his way to nine single spaced pages, and he got a B, which was above average for him in that class.

That structure, intro, points, references, supports statements, conclusion, can literally be blown out into a thesis or even a book, as long as you have a clear idea of what you're trying to say and how you intend to back it up, and you can write coherent (dare to dream, interesting!) prose to explain everything in between.

What people are missing is that that process is actually fun. Trying to figure out how you can make a point in an interesting way that is backed up by references that you can argue in support on your point is actually interesting and fun, you just have to stop thinking about why you can't/won't and just throw yourself at it.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

That's not even bullshitting, that's just doing the assignment. And yeah I think a lot of people are conditioned early on to see writing an essay/paper as some herculean task that is only possible through shortcuts when the reality is you've got two formats that'll get you through any humanities essay (5-paragraph and its ilk vs thesis, antithesis, synthesis) and about one for science.

Once I got past the dread step 1 for me was always to pull out a template that I made for either the 5 paragraph style or the scientific paper style. It was just basic formatted, all caps and highlighted saying what goes there such as THESIS SENTENCE. It took what had been a scary process filled with writers block and made it into a simple means to convey my thoughts. If it wasn't long enough I could add another paragraph or more arguments.

I think a lot of people struggle with the enormity of the finished product, when the reality is that by thinking about the thing you should have a general idea of what you think, and all you need to do is go present legitimate and defensible arguments for why using the appropriate materials. Sure you may find yourself unable to do that upon further investigation, but that's ok, you've probably come to a different perspective that you can defend, it may even be the opposite position. That's good, that's what academia is for.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 day ago

This right here. I like writing things down. I like shaping ideas in my head so that they come out on paper before me. I like that feeling of accomplishment.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

This was painful

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I did a twenty page "research" paper for philosophy the night before having read one page from the dude. And got a b+

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Oh I had a 1-1 presentation with the professor for a philosophy class and he wanted us to present one point from one author, capture the point in five minutes or less, and survive ten minutes of cross examination. This guy was a real shark too, not only was he known to be very sharp and super cutting with his critiques, he was the kind of guy who would force a class of forty people to sit a presentation in his office for twenty minutes each so he could avoid correcting term papers.

I chose Marshall McLuhan and spoke for maybe three minutes and why his assertion that "the medium is the message" is true because the invention of email made it unacceptable for a company with a branch in Toronto and one in Montreal to communicate by horseback, so the expected pace of business was irrevocably changed. Email is only "amazing" for a couple of days, then it's a fact that dictates expectations, and so, what you communicate by email is of much less consequence in the long run than the deep change in corporate culture that email causes. That was the core of McLuhan's point.

Got an A+ for that one, and was out of his office and on my way in less than ten minutes.

Marshall McLuhan's was the only work I read of all the assignments in that entire class.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

The Dude abides.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember for my senior project in college having done so much work that documenting it at the end resulted in like 30 pages. That was without stetching it. I didn't want to spend any more time than necessary at that point. Kids these days...

[–] protist@retrofed.com 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The hardest papers were the ones where the professor gave you content expectations and then a page limit. I def learned to be concise and how to avoid fluff

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[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wrote 10 pages single spaced by accident after failing to read an instruction that asked for double spacing. Writing that much about intercellular communication 25 years ago took flipping weeks at the library

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess they didn't have search and replace back then?

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Well, there was also the reading. It was a computer terminal system to find items, but you often needed a few return trips if things were in use

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I tried reading Infinite Jest for the first time.

In a pre-LLM world, this kind of word waffling nonsense would seem impressive, but as someone who picked it up to see what it's about in a post-LLM world.... I have few good things to say about this style of pointless writing.

It's something that I used to excel at too: a long litany of rhythmically satisfying prose that showcased your penchant for picking out the perfect words to soothe the literary soul whilst saying absolutely nothing at the same time.

Then I learned how to write to clear English, and realised that I valued plot over filler most of all in a story.

I'm sorry, Mr Wallace, I just can't read your book any more.

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[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I had an ethics class in college where we had to write a 10-page capstone paper for part of the final.

The teacher wrote an outline and description for what she wanted, and encouraged everyone to work on it for a few hours a week to make sure they finished it on time.

I waited until the last day of class, banged it out in about an hour and a half, and submitted it around 15 minutes before it was finally due.

Got an A, with a comment about how great the work was. Kids these days.

Bro I was writing 10+ page papers in Jr High

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