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Excellent reason for even the normies to ditch chrome π₯
People will *anything *except use FireFox
happy to not be affected
it's like people don't remember what surfing the web was like before ad-blockers. If adblockers go away for real, ~~people~~ nerds will revolt
clearly the tech industry needs a reminder. Don't ever piss off Nerds and Hackers. there are many public records clearly showing why it's not a good idea to piss off anyone who can and will fuck you over.
Firefox and its derivatives (and Safari - sorry Apple users) are the only browsers not using Google's Blink web engine these days - at least until Ladybird is released.
Despite the Mozilla Foundation's many stupid decisions, Firefox (and Safari) is starting to look like the only thing stopping Google from completely controlling the internet.
Embrace Zen
Firefox+uBO works fine. Brave shields works fine.
Ublock was already somewhat neutered on Chrome, and people didnβt seem to notice. They keep using it.
Iβm just so cynical these days. Itβs not like the Windows XP era, where people eventually get fed up with enshittification, and move.
Google won. Facebook won.
They have absolute control, basically.
In all sadness, folks on Lemi and other more technically inclined forums infight even more than leftists infight, and all they do is sabotage themselves.
Projects like Firefox are mountains above Chrome when it comes to privacy and not ceding web control over to Google. Yet any thread about anything Firefox is doing is just filled with FUD from people complaining about small individual changes or Firefox not being perfect enough, so on and so forth.
It's self-sabotage. If you didn't think Firefox is good enough, congratulations. Now you've got Chrome, and pretty soon you won't have Firefox.
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Zen has been pretty great so far
I feel this doesn't really affect many people.
MV2 has been disabled for quite some time now, and anybody left using Chrome has either installed uBlock Origin Lite or at this point just likes the adverts.
The browser wars have been kind of strange from the perspective of someone who's been using Firefox for well over a decade. It's a bit like hearing about the Civil War while living in Oregon.
Oh look all the "chrome but in a different outfit" browsers are doing the same terrible shit? What a shocker, no one could have predicted that the many many things all on the same base where actuality just fake competition.
Firefox has webserial support now. I no longer need anything chromium. Let them rot.
Zen and Vivaldi for me is the combo.
Good bye to Chrome it is then. I made the switch as soon as they started messing

Pretty fucked up considering how much malware and scammy bullshit come though ads.
Yep, sorry but not sorry. Advertisements arenβt safe. The industry has been ruined by bad actors and itβs a shame, but also not my problem.
People keep mentioning Firefox but fail to realize that Google, as the sole sponsor of Mozilla Corporation (not to be confused with Mozilla Foundation), can just kindly ask for Firefox to follow suit and gimp itself, just like it did before with a move to webextensions. Gotta admit it, Google has won the web, what they say (eventually) goes.
Firefox is partially in this position because the community really does not support Firefox. Every decision Firefox makes or Mozilla makes in an attempt to try and claw back their financial freedom away from Google, the community dumpsters them on. Then, on posts like this, the community turns around and dumpsters Firefox for being so financially dependent on Google.
FireFox was and is an awesome project, but unfortunately, without the financial backing of a large for-profit business, they cannot keep up with Chrome. Even then, FireFox, with an engineering team a quarter the size of Chrome's, still manages to keep up, which is a god damn miracle.
Developing a browser that is fast, actually works with new web standards, stays up to date, and is adding features is incredibly difficult. It is a stupidly expensive endeavor, similar to the level of effort necessary for operating systems.
And unfortunately, there is no Linux equivalent for web browsers, at least not right now. There are some up-and-coming projects, but it's going to be decades before they reach the level of maturity necessary to start competing against Chrome. At which point there may be so much standards capture that some of these browsers may find it impossible to actually catch up.
From my memory of their financials, they actually get enough donations for the browser. The issue is the for profit companies fetish for a million different side quests.
Great.. I work in IT so this means MORE "virus" calls because you 100000000% need an adblocker on the web to stop those fake "your computer is being hacked" malicious advertisements from websites.
