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A great alternative is to create a Matrix account and connect a WhatsApp bridge bot with the WhatsApp account, that way you can use any lightweight Matrix client. (It also works cross-platform)
Counterpoint: no, it's not, because I'm not stupid enough to install it.
Or own a Windows PC!
Sadly, I have one that I need for some freelance work. But I don't use it too much.
Oh, it's most likely doing something. Just nothing you would want.
Wouldn't Windows 11 be the worst app on your Windows 11 PC? 🤔
It's probably just teams, right?
I once read a story about a Teams team in microslop Teams, was hilarious.
Technically.... Yes.
Without having read the article, lemme guess... Electron.
Maybe now that no-one can afford RAM these companies might get motivated to do something about that. Hell, I'd accept them just feeling shamed into not being the worst memory hog on your system at this point, over any altruistic reason.
See also: Discord and Slack, two other colossal wastes of space that use an order of magnitude more RAM than a native app would while running slower and providing absolutely zero other benefits.
The worst part about electron is that there is no way for it to share resources like a browser. You have to oacjage the whole version together, when really should should have been more like a pwa. Instead you have 10 electron instances, running with 10x the respurce needs.
that's why you just skip the middleman and run it in your browser instead.
my friend has 16gb of ram and he keeps hitting out-of-memory errors when he has like 5 apps open, because they’re all electron and they all take like 2gb each, it’s ridiculous
They don't care if you can't afford it. Data centers are buying them by the truckload.
OP was talking about the software companies, not the ram companies
No, the worst app is Windows 11. My parents have some all-in-one HP PC. It has some Intel laptop processor from about 8 years ago, 16GB of ram, (upgraded from 8), and a wheezy 256GB spinning drive, running Win10 adequately.
After being bombarded with "upgrade to Windows 11! It's easy and fun!!" notifications, they did so, and of course their PC is woefully underpowered for the job.
I log in remotely and check what's running and the OS is paging to the swap file constantly. [Edit: and I mean, to the point where opening an application takes 60 seconds of disk thrashing for a window to appear]
I had to get a de-bloat script and turn off about 50 Microsoft "essential services". The biggest hog out of them all was copilot, which was using about 4GB while sitting there idle.
I have no doubt that I'm going to have to run that script every month as everything gets "repaired", until I can get back to their place and put a SSD in and maybe install some flavour of Linux.
I had to get a de-bloat script and turn off about 50 Microsoft "essential services"
And then a Windows Update comes along...
Install Linux, Problem Solved.
My MILs computer has 8 GB of RAM... I have not yet convinced her she needs a new computer, but I did just install windows 10 iot ltsc on it so it will at least get security patches.
This person fundamentally misunderstands RAM on Windows...
Apps reserve a portion of the total available memory. That memory is not necessarily in use. Memory not in use will still be available to other applications as soon as the system reallocates it when a given application needs more. Usually of you have more RAM, applications will reserve more of it. You can check a better explanation of your current memory usage in the windows resource monitor. You'll see memory allocated, memory in use, and memory being used to cache data (which windows does to reduce disk reads and writes), as well as memory completely unallocated. Chrome can easily allocate 1/3 of your total available memory by the third tab, but that doesn't mean chrome is actually using that much.
I mean it's an electron app. Maybe the number is inflated, but it's still a ton. The previous number he compared to (100mb) would be equally inflated, so it's fair
Why would anyone put WhatsApp on their computer?
Stop using meta people!
I wish and I am accumulating contacts on Signal as of late. But removing WhatsApp is impossible off my phone. Literally everyone are using it around here and I wish they wouldn't.
Then remove it. Someone has to take a stand. I did. Yes everyone around me used it too. If they support a worse world, AI, billionaires and fascism I don't really want to communicate with them anyways.
Why would anyone put Windows on their computer?
"Stop using meta people!" sounds like a protest chant for the second-class citizens of a B-grade cyberpunk dystopia.
but we are second-class citizens in a B-grade cyberpunk dystopia...
unfortunately switching away from messengers like this is much harder than other stuff cuz you have to move your entire social network over. it can be done, but unless all your friends and family are also foss and privacy nerds it’s going to be difficult
then again idk if it’s possible, but if it is, you should at least use whatsapp within a web browser. it may even consume less ram that way lol
It isn't hard to make that move though it's just inconvenient. I wouldn't play along, friends and family can fuck right off if they wont leave. It's directly funding so many nasty things I can't be part of it.
How is using Whatsapp for free funding anything?
There are advertisements inside of WhatsApp, advertisements in turn make money, that money goes to meta. I hope this helps you understand.
I get the privacy concerns but social isolation is worse for you. Do what you can and don't stress that much about it.
Privacy is a tiny part of it. It's the directly supporting and funding a multi billion dollar corporation that is actively make everything worse for everyone. Go look at all their planned projects.
The easiest thing to do is not play along. If you are relying on whatsapp for socializing doesn't that make you want to leave even more?
I don't know who is doing the testing, but they don't know what they're doing. 313MB
Where you fucked up is installing and using WhatsApp to begin with. It’s been shit since meta bought it.
Or they’re mining your data….?
I have a Windows 11 PC with WhatsApp?
