this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2026
471 points (97.4% liked)

linuxmemes

32761 readers
271 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
  • Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry of any kind will not be tolerated. This is an LGBTQ+-friendly community -- if that is a problem for you, you should leave.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
  • Don't come looking for advice, this is not the right community.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves / tolerates / hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  • 5. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Language/язык/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
  • 6. (NEW!) Regarding public figuresWe all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations.
  • Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
  • We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
  • Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed.
  • Β 

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

    founded 3 years ago
    MODERATORS
    top 50 comments
    sorted by: hot top controversial new old
    [–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    In KDE, when right-click menu gives you an option for a new "folder". I will call it a folder.

    [–] Jack@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    The Xfce file manager, Thunar (4.18 with en-US as language), also has "Create Folder..." under the File menu, and in some contexts in the right-click menu.

    Under Preferences, Behavior, it has both "directory" and "folders".

    man ls uses "directory" only tho, and of course mkdir.

    [–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Thunar also calls them folders in the properties window.

    And most Linux icon themes visually represent them with a file cabinet folder image...

    [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    linux users when they walk into a room:

    ls

    windows users when they walk into a room

    DIR

    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

    cd

    ls

    ls

    What was I doing again?

    ls

    lsd

    You start tripping out

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    I guess most Windows users don't know what DIR is or even where to use it.

    "Do you use DIR?" User: "Do I use what? And don't call me dear."

    Opening a folder in Explorer automatically shows the contents, saving the need for an extra step.

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)


    Here is a container of DIR.
    Which is called a pen! Hmmm.

    load more comments (1 replies)
    [–] meathorse@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I feel this deep. Coming around full circle over the past 30-odd years.

    Cutting my teeth mucking around and learning DOS 5 with friends on my families first PC, they were directories. Migrating to a support career where everything is stored in folders and now coming out the other side abandoning windows altogether and I'm back to calling everything directories again!

    [–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yep and don't get me started on object storage where everything is a prefix

    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Most file managers on Linux, like GNOME or KDE, have the option "New Folder". It's fine to use them interchangeably, y'all.

    [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    imo, directory refers to the filesystem concept, folder refers to the UI concept

    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, but if the UI refers to the same file system's directories also as folders, why do people get so bent out of shape when you call them either?

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

    Everyone's gotta have a hobby.

    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I honestly like folders better. It's one of the few good things from windows.

    Files are in folders. That makes so much sense.

    [–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Not any more. I had a student not that long ago ask about the metaphor, ended up having to explain to the whole class what physical files and folders were.

    load more comments (1 replies)
    load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    When you call it the windows key

    [–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

    I bought tux stickers to stick them onto the windows icon of my keyboard. However it is a lighted one. So you had tux on top and in a red light the windows icon shined through. It was even more cursed that way.

    [–] embed_me@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

    What? You expect me to use "Super" out there in the wild and not look crazy?

    [–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Microsoft is the one that forced manufacturers to add it, or they couldn't advertise their keyboard as being "Designed for Windows 95", as it is required for the shortcuts (e.g win + d shows the desktop). The "Menu" key was added at the same time so that the Win 95 UI could be navigated without a mouse.

    Now they are going the same with the CoPilot key. And poorly - Windows keys send keycode 0x5B and 0x5C. Menu sends 0x5D.
    The CoPilot key? Left Shift + Windows + F23, obviously.

    [–] guy@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    There's another name for the windows key?

    [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Super or Meta is and Mac calls it command key

    load more comments (4 replies)
    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I use either term. "Directory" is a weird term honestly. I accept it and use it often, but folder finds does make more sense honestly.

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Yes, a directory is a list of items. Like a telephone directory. A folder is a container of items.

    In 2009 I added Folder to the Wikipedia page Directory (computing) Explaining the Folder Metaphor in both English and German (Verzeichnis/Ordner). My clarification has been tweaked and altered slightly to bring it into line with Wikipedia standards, but it has stood the test of time.

    I always use the term folder in Linux circles when referring to a container of things. It's useful to stress the importance of the user interface, which is often misunderstood by many there. Be proud!

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

    Firstly, thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. And yeah those are the two ways I've thought of those terms. What's weird to me is that saying "directory" to refer to the containing object does sound like you're referring to just the listing itself, as you said, which is ever-changing metadata and to my knowledge that is not stored in/on the folder itself, it would be in the ...whatever equivalent of file allocation tables are now. But, since so many people say directory I've learned to use it interchangeably with folder. Directory feels more technical and somehow more closely attached to the concept of a path. I dunno, words are weird!

    load more comments (2 replies)
    [–] eah@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Folder is better. On disk, a folder is a list of pairs of a name and number, mapping the items in the folder to their location on the disk i.e. it's a directory. The days before computerization are before my time, but, as I understand it, library index cards worked this way. You might have a card for each author which listed the books by that author with the location of the index card on that book, and you might have directory cards on subjects or keywords too, and the card on a book might point to the location of the book on the shelf and the card for the author, etc., or something like that. It would be most confusing to call these directory cards "folders". The computer does the same thing internally, but the user interface has hidden away any notion of directory. They're logically folders. It's only a directory if you're writing a file system implementation.

    load more comments (1 replies)
    [–] inari@piefed.zip 12 points 2 months ago

    Too late, you're gonna get corrected by 4 people

    [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    wait, windows uses folder?

    i've been saying directory since DOS. CD means Change Directory.

    [–] cute_noker@feddit.dk 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Dont windows also have a rmdir

    I dont know if there are any commands with folder ? Maybe it was a marketing stunt somewhere along the way

    load more comments (3 replies)
    [–] lordziv@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 months ago

    Also dir to list director contents

    [–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Jokes on them, I’ve been a windows guy so long they have always been directories; I started in the dos days.

    load more comments (1 replies)
    [–] FedX@quokk.au 9 points 2 months ago

    Me, earlier today, referring to Niri as a desktop instead of a "window manager," which is also wrong as it's a Wayland compositor.

    [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    As an old person who started on MS-DOS, I've always said "directory", and "program". I had trouble switching to "folder" and then more recently "app". I'm happy to have switched to Linux a couple of years ago so I can just say directory again. The word app, short for application, came from Apple, with the iPhone. No doubt they also liked that is the first three letters of Apple, too. It was specifically for the little programs that ran on iPhone, not meant to replace "program" across the board. But, here we are. Also, "web app" was used to refer to those websites or pages that worked like apps on iPhones, before apps became commonplace. Now, everything from Notes to Photoshop is an "app".

    load more comments (1 replies)
    [–] febrile@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    "Task Manager, my beloved"

    "I'm System Monitor now" (Arch+KDE)

    "Apologies. System Monitor, my beloved"

    Also, the bottom bar with icons and stuff is called "Task Manager" on KDE, which is mildly confusing

    [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I Used to be like this but now I disagree. I intentionally use β€œfolders” instead of Linux directories or gitlab groups.

    Folders are distinct and meaningful, while directories and groups have multiple meanings not clear without context.

    [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    In spanish wy kind of use both interchangeably... carpeta, directorio.

    [–] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

    If I'm dealing with text, it's a directory. If I'm clicking around, it's a folder.

    [–] raman_klogius@ani.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    At least both sides agree that the big piece of silicon wafer inside the PC is called the motherboard, and not some deranged bougie term like logic board... 🀦

    [–] BartyDeCanter@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

    The biggest silicon wafer is going to be your CPU or GPU. The motherboard is mostly fiberglass and copper.

    [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Motherboard made more sense when there were daughterboards.

    At this point without that the term is much more meaningless compared to alternatives like System board or Main logic board.

    [–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 5 points 2 months ago

    Uhm, ackshually, the motherboard is fiberglass, a.k.a. GRP, with copper traces imprinted on it.

    load more comments (1 replies)
    [–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I've only seriously been on linux for about 6 months. It's been longer but as far as actually doing the low level linux user stuff in the terminal? - 6 months. Saying 'directory' just sort of happens once you start tinkering in any meaningful way.

    [–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    "I'll show you my tiny wand"

    load more comments (1 replies)
    load more comments
    view more: next β€Ί