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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 3 points 40 minutes ago

You love to see it.

Llms are the tech, which can be interesting.

"AI" is the moron capitalism auto-theft bubble of this stupid shit and cannot go away fast enough.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

LLMs have some use cases, just far fewer than the hype fawns over. Automating tedium is a good use; we've been using computers for this for years. Automating creativity and services is terrible, and in the latter case, merely an extension of phone trees that make it impossible to reach a real person.

I have a good example from yesterday: I use CashApp for all of my banking needs, and I get distributions twice a month to cover rent and essentials. Well, yesterday, I had an unexpected charge that was partially reversed but left me in overdraft. I reached out to my mom and explained the situation, at which point begins four fucking hours of hell on both ends, and, of course, customer service tries to keep you in an "AI" loop before letting one talk to a real person.

But surprise! This is another "AI" with more elaborate scripts, each more insulting than the last. Yes, I'm sure I've entered all the information in correctly. Yes, I've tried it multiple times. The issue here is that the app is not doing today what it did yesterday under identical circumstances. No matter how I tried to describe the edge case we'd apparently run into, the chatbot insisted it was user error; everything's fine on their end.

Eventually, I get a link to talk with an alleged "real person," and the process repeats. It doesn't much matter if they're real or not when sticking to the script nets the same results as the first two chatbots.

The error message mom is getting when attempting to send money (and she attempted this multiple times) was "Your app is not up to date; please redownload and try again." And, of course, she had the most recent version and was able to confirm that. Her chatbot experience served only to frustrate her, so I looked at what I could figure out on my end, though she's on iOS, so replicating the issue was impossible.

Eventually, after trying to access my account through the Web portal instead, I run into a prompt telling me I need to create a new $cashtag. What's happened to the one I've been using without issue for years? "Customer service" muses that I did something to my account myself, or that there's been fraud I'd have clearly known about. That's the handle people pay me via, and changing it is not in my interest. But the "AI" knows all, and obviously everything is hunky-dory on their infrastructure end, so it's a me problem. Also, I can't have it back.

After further useless steps I'm guided through, we arrive where we were three fucking hours prior, I finally acquiesce and set up a new tag.

This is when the lightbulb goes off: There's a nonzero chance that my tag being canceled had unexpected downstream effects. On the fourth call with my mom, I tell her I had to pick a new one and share it, suggesting she give it one more try.

And it goes through as expected.

So, the error message she was getting and that chatbots were attempting to fix was a complete red herring. An error message of "the $cashtag you selected is no longer active" would have been useful. The "AI" being aware of the incorrect error message would have also been useful. Telling me that my tag had been canceled to start instead of walking me in circles, uninstalling, reinstalling, clearing cache, the whole nine yards, would have been useful.

Instead, two people spent four hours each trying to figure out two problems, one caused by the other. A full workday on a Saturday dedicated to troubleshooting issues the bots were blithely unaware of, even though it's literally impossible this is the first time these specific issues came up at the company. That's more than $200 of free labour to arrive somewhere that should have been known to the system.

This is what you cause when you don't use LLMs as intended.

That said, I still use it as a far more powerful Grammarly, as even on my laptop, I have a nasty propensity for typing totally correct spellings of incorrect words, and it's great as a fresh set of eyes where I'd fill in the word that should have been there upon editing. I generated a server image for a Discord based on an out-of-context line (a comically oversized rooster in an Alpine valley -- taller than the Alps themselves -- looking down on a scale cow, with a far less involved prompt), and there was much mirth and merriment.

But these are no-stakes, low-impact uses. As soon as it's adjacent to something mission critical, not just for a business but also their customers, the level of scrutiny needs for software needs to be as high as it was pre-ChatGPT. And since that negates imagined cost-savings, ain't gonna happen.

You can eventually work a screw into some materials with a hammer and insistence that it's an improvement over a bespoke fucking screwdriver, but the substrate is damaged as a result.

Just so with LLMs. But more and more people are expected to use them in a work environment without anything approaching sufficient training, often in situations where they aren't domain experts. Garbage in, garbage out.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 57 minutes ago

The only reason to use AI is because it's running on your computer at home. Otherwise, nah, I pass.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

I feel like the AI industry did this to themselves by absolutely shoving it down our throats at every possible chance they had.

AI in general isn’t a bad technology, it just has very limited use cases where it’s actually good at things. Most things it’s used for are things it’s bad at. Kind of like using a steam locomotive to clean the bottom of your pool.

[–] kronusdark@beehaw.org 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen people literally use it as find and replace 🤦‍♂️

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I can count on one hand the number of jobs or functions I've seen people try to get AI to do that isn't already done better by a hard-coded program or an Excel spreadsheet.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 2 hours ago

Kind of like using a steam locomotive to clean the bottom of your pool.

I'm surprised that wasn't tried on the reflecting pool in D.C. "We love the old-timey trains, don't we, folks? And now were going to use one in the most amazing way the world has ever seen!"

[–] what@beehaw.org 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There are lists of technology which will work for AI such as programmer. which require analytics of AI and work with that frame of mind.

We were shown the list in my school 15 years ago and told "some day soon AI will take these jobs, so choose wisely" with a rough percentage for each job.

Okay, let AI take my job then, that would happen anyway. Jobs have been gouged ever since society has mutated apart from its basic building blocks. I at least want peace of mind!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The main issue is that these Parasites can't hide their glee at replacing as many workers as possible, so they can keep all those paychecks as profit. They are pushing it hard, but we can all see that they don't give a rats ass about it being better, or making life easier, it's ONLY about how AI is going to boost profits through the stratosphere, and make them all Trillionaires.

And it's OBVIOUS to EVERYBODY that's the PRIMARY advantage of AI. When these jackals start extolling the great societal benefits at a graduation ceremony, it's like the Groom telling his wife on the wedding night how fuckable all the bridesmaids were, and then wondering why his new Bride is pissed off at him.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 59 minutes ago

In fairness, I was naked in the hot-tub bath in the honeymoon suite with the maid of honour at one point during the afterparty. With the door open, of course.

[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 7 points 3 hours ago

Every 3 days those goofs are telling us some new BS (it is good enough to improve itself, it is too powerful, it is whatever so watch out because now it is better at everything) only for it to...not happen. They try to scare people into giving up and giving in. Of course people don't like it. There is nothing sadder than an individual or company declaring that they like AI.

Our species proved we couldnt even handle the internet or gunpowder.

We know corruption bleeds through and eventually overpowers all good man-made ideas.

When will society genuinely ask themselves if we truly need this stuff to exist and be our best selves?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 6 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

"people have turned against AI" is an ... interesting framing, when the same article says that they're using AI more than ever. I can't quite believe that the bosses of ~60% of workers are forcing them to use it.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can't quite believe that the bosses of ~60% of workers are forcing them to use it.

Ummm...except, they are. On top of the fact that AI is being implemented internally, all across most businesses...everything you do as a consumer, is also being integrated with AI. We are all literally "being forced to use it". In most cases, you can't even opt-out.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Some companies literally have AI minimum use quotas and will fire you if you don't use genAI enough

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My company just implemented AI directly into our payroll system. Now, instead of looking up our information using the old UI interface, we have an app that's basically just an AI chat bot that we have to ask for information. No more pages to look up...just, "how many vacation hours do I have left?", or "show me my pay stubs for (enter date range here)."

Technically, this makes everyone at our company a part of the statistical group that's "using AI more than ever before", and none of us had a choice in the matter.

[–] helix@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Try to jailbreak it into giving you more time off.

[–] mereo@piefed.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

I guess it's about AI being shaved down throat for financial reasons. I use AI as I perceive it as a tool among other tools, but I also I switched to Linux because I don't want AI to be shoved down my throat.

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It's all seo and marketing.

If you want something connected to honesty you aren't going to find it within this system.

And also... I really don't believe that this Ai marketing and the bubble is actually being used to influence people to accept chatgpt or consumer grade ai product. That's just a front to cover for building ai surveillance data centers. And it's clearly working.

It's as if even the anti Ai side is just a distraction from the bigger issues which probably stem from the lack of honest humanity left within the entire structure we are forced to live within. There are more fundamental, and bigger, fish to fry. But everyone is terrified by the truth of what that would entail. It's like a pre built loop of consumerism and escapism people are trapped in because reality is actually chaos that most people are too scared to live within.