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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is really about training AI, isn’t it. They’ve tapped nearly all the sources of human text output already, so now they want to create as much more of it as possible, as quickly as possible. They will tap into conversations and use it as a new data source, mark my words.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They are so lazy they want an LLM to tell them what is hot and the only way they can do it is by massive spying. The surveillance state brought to us by fucking advertising of all things. So bizarre.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

“There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!” — Mario Savio, 1964

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The people who called me crazy because "there's no way your phone can be listening in on you all the time" are the same people who are going to be the most excited about this "feature"

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How did these people expect "Hey Siri" / "Hey Google" to work?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

Im a perfect world, as they claim, its a secondary system listening that isn't recording or transmitting anything, and is meant to be low power. If it hears the wake up word, it wakes up the other mic and starts recording.

Thats how they claim the smart speakers work anyway.

This would be different.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS, asap Pixel owners.

Thank me later.

[–] timhayes1991@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Before it's somehow no longer an option. I fear the Motorola deal will somehow get blocked.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Setting aside corporate surveillance, I have started to have a love/hate relationship with AI transcriptions in meetings. My auditory processing isn't great, so it is nice to have notes. And it's not replacing a job that someone was doing before. At the same time, it makes me feel more on edge. Everything I say becomes part of a permanent record. And I am part of a public institution, so that is subject to FOIA requests AFAIK.

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[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 34 points 1 day ago

I saw this title and immediately said "fuck off" then clicked, and ..glad to see OP sharing my immediate sentiment.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Constant surveillance 😡

Audio memories 😍

[–] meejle@piefed.world 15 points 1 day ago

BIG BROTHER IS ~~WATCHING YOU~~
HELPING YOU REMEMBER YOUR IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

JFC, I don't need tech tracking every goddamn word and fart.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago
[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

Do not want

[–] iterable@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Dumb phones are about to start trending more and more every day.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

or Linux phones

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I recently got rid of my smart watch when Samsung enshitified it and locked a bunch of features like weather updates behind an account, years after I bought the watch.

Now I have a dumb mechanical watch (quartz crystal, not spring winding) that will last years before I need to replace the battery. Everything it does, it does better than a smart watch. Not having to do the wrist flick gesture 1-3 times to check the time has been amazing. And I'm not constantly broadcasting Bluetooth anymore.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Sure a dumb phone won't record for Google. Current ones don't and probably can't be made to.

But recording would be trivial to implement even on a dumb phone if it becomes acceptable to the majority. Hell it could become a legal requirement.

We cannot run away from these issues by using old phones, old vehicles, 'physical' media etc. Eventually they will be unavailable. Some, old vehicles, really should be for other reasons.

Or as others have pointed out, you might not be recorded by your phone but you will be by the others'.

We need to persuade more people to actively oppose such measures outright. Defend privacy, control of our devices etc explicitly.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Commodore Callback has perfect timing haha.

Really the only thing I'd miss with it is Google Wallet and Android Auto.

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[–] Planchette_Phantom@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

I got GrapheneOS

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If a song isn’t recognized, a short digital fingerprint may be sent to Google to securely search the cloud. Background conversations and audio are never sent to Google.

And, of course, Google will honor this and any other setting, as always, right? Right?

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[–] stellargmite@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[–] c64z86@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This would be such a cool thing, too bad it will only be used to scrape our data in order to sell us more ads. There are far too many technologies and concepts that have been ruined already due to bloody greed.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey, don't be so pessimistic.

For sure it will be available for government agencies to subpoena or even outright purchase.

This is the free market. Everything about you is for sale.

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[–] Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 43 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Honestly, I thought they already did that.

One of my motivations for becoming more privacy minded, was the amount of times a subject of conversation was delivered through an algorithm later.

It was creepy, talk about hose pipes> receive hosepipe content/ads.

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[–] kayohtie@pawb.social 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Even if no one else could access it because it stayed on my device, I'm sure it'll be used for categorizing "advertising cohort" stuff again.

It sucks having to be so skeptical. With my severe ADHD something like this would be enormously helpful for remembering conversations others I talk to remember just fine but I don't.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's the larger problem: other people will have this bullshit turned on and the microphones will receive the speech audio of everyone in their vicinity. It's fully breaking consent to be recorded for others.

I do not care what they might say about "listening only to the owner" or whatever they will claim. If it's recording with a microphone, then it will receive sound.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (5 children)

So what could be a really useful thing is now just a 24/7 surveilance device that will record everything, even when you have sex, when you talk about fantasies and so on.

I guarantee you that in no time the justice department will be interested in having access to all that

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 256 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (40 children)

Reason n+1 for me being thankful for switching to GrapheneOS.

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[–] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Outside of the MASSIVE security concerns that this would present, this would be an immensely helpful feature for me.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 30 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Any soviet officials still alive must be going crazy: "wait, they actually pay to be surveilled???"

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago

I love the idea. Having a sortable, searchable list of everything that hits my plate day to day would be an awesome boon, I simply don't want anyone else to have that data :(

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