Dems discovering ~10 years too late that "they go low, we go high" is a failed strategy.
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I'm not saying democrats shouldn't do this, but redistricting into a situation that causes permanent red and blue states feels a bit 'civil warry' to me.
And given that the democrats as a whole are at least centre right, having permanent blue states might prevent an authoritarian takeover now, but won't solve the long term problems anyway.
Y'all really need to get your head around the fact that you've been in a civil war for 6 months.
Denial isn't a river in Egypt, your window for preventing ethnic cleansing and political pogroms is rapidly closing
We're already in a cold civil war. Best we start acknowledging that and prepare accordingly.
It will have to be a very temporary thing until the democrats have a big enough majority to permanently completely restructure the way elections are done.
And why the fuck would those greedy, corrupt bastards do that when they have the majority to do anything they want? Why would they let their competition compete?
Sure, this is better than republicans being in permanent control, but it's still the end of democracy in USA, and the ones in power have 0 incentive to bring back democracy as long as the american public aren't willing to shoot their oppressors to defend or bring back democracy.
I hate it that it's come to this level of lunacy
Come back to this level of lunacy.
The US has been here before.
Actually, a few times:
- Prior to the seven years war, the governor of Virginia was so openly corrupt the other colonies refused to official business with the colony, as he would just assign the contracts to his firms and run away with any money.
After the seven years war, leading up to the US revolution, things were very heated. Mostly from: 2a. Rich colonials defrauding British banks via loan fraud. 2b. Rich people then using said funds to buy up the available land, driving prices out of reqch of the regular colonials. 2c. Rich colonials got really pissy that the stamp act was going to prevent them from executing loan fraud. 2d. Rich colonialists astroturfing imaginary support for motiona and even faking riots to make it look like they had popular support. (Note that this was so faked that English speaking Canada became a thing out of this.) 3. The only land they would give to the poor people was in the strictly off limits Ohio Valley as that land was seen as native land in tha ks for them winning the war in North America for England. Neither the natives or the crown soldiers stood for this, but it was paid for by the rich colonials en mass, so was functionally unstoppable.
About 50 to 100 years later: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line the Mason-Dixie line became a thing and the two sides fought to gerrymander support for slavery/freedom. Which ended causing the US civil war.
I mean... It definitely has not but ok
Actually, a few times:
- Prior to the seven years war, the governor of Virginia was so openly corrupt the other colonies refused to official business with the colony, as he would just assign the contracts to his firms and run away with any money.
After the seven years war, leading up to the US revolution, things were very heated. Mostly from: 2a. Rich colonials defrauding British banks via loan fraud. 2b. Rich people then using said funds to buy up the available land, driving prices out of reqch of the regular colonials. 2c. Rich colonials got really pissy that the stamp act was going to prevent them from executing loan fraud. 2d. Rich colonialists astroturfing imaginary support for motiona and even faking riots to make it look like they had popular support. (Note that this was so faked that English speaking Canada became a thing out of this.) 3. The only land they would give to the poor people was in the strictly off limits Ohio Valley as that land was seen as native land in tha ks for them winning the war in North America for England. Neither the natives or the crown soldiers stood for this, but it was paid for by the rich colonials en mass, so was functionally unstoppable.
About 50 to 100 years later: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason%E2%80%93Dixon_line the Mason-Dixie line became a thing and the two sides fought to gerrymander support for slavery/freedom. Which ended causing the US civil war.
History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Men rarely change in any meaningful way, through the patterns of human actions we recreate scenarios over and over again.
Im glad their fighting but it's no surprise what they finally chose to fight for is to further entrench their own power. If they continue to simply pass all the fascist apointments and vote for cloture so no one in their own party can even filibuster it's not gonna matter how many dems there are and republicans will once again get their way from the minority as they have done before.
When they go low, make them suck your dick.
Yes please.
Dems need to grow spines and stop being pussies. Fight fire with fire.
Cripes…No Democrats, it’s not fighting Texas, it’s fighting against every damn red state.
Speak to shit realistically for the love of democracy.
From Missouri: THANK YOU!
They need to get their timing right so that the red states can't sneak in even more redistricting.
Yeah they have already talked a few other states. I still prefered the deadmans swtich option though where its all passed and setup so that the new map becomes the map the moment any other state changes their map.