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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.

It works perfectly.

I'm a desktop user but my phone feels like the more polished experience (of course with way less capabilities)

[–] StannisDMannis@lemmy.today 1 points 37 minutes ago

We need custom hardware imo.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 40 minutes ago

Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!

[–] hopeful@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] frostnibble@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Came here to say the same thing. I'm very happy with sailfish OS since the first jolla phone came out (10+ years). I'm certainly not a power user though.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 13 points 20 hours ago

Be the change you want to see in the world.

-- Daffy Duck

[–] vane@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Gabe please make Linux mobile phone.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Just one problem. Both are still dependent on Google and Android-based. How sustainable is that security model when a company has the say-so over whether you get to flash your custom firmware next year, or the next year, or maybe the year after that?

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn't just a good deed, it's necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The complaints I see about custom OS the most:

  • Bank or payment apps don't work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
  • Some other Google apps don't work correctly (well... duh)
  • Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.
[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn't even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven't found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

My bank app doesn't work with Graphene, which is a pain in the arse, but not the end of the world. I mean, they still have a website I can log into.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

i never experienced point 2 or 3 in all my years of using them.

the problem for me is usually integrity api.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

They're pretty common and the functionality is often not even obscure. Plenty of ROMs out there are unable to make full use of the fancy cameras on some phones without jumping through hoops because of driver issues. That's not an insignificant thing. I've seen NFC and e-sim being unavailable as well, which are also not very obscure features.

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[–] Noctambulist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

GrapheneOS has been working flawlessly for me for years. Highly recommend!

[–] lucario_owo@pawb.social 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yep, they put in a lot of effort into the security and open source stuff, but at least on Graphene, the bundled apps are severely outdated aosp apps, they don't even support material you, meanwhile current aosp apps do support it, as can be seen on Lineage. The calculator app looks straight from Android 5 or probably earlier.

[–] 8dotpi@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago

I honestly couldn't care less about how the calculator app looks, and I'm sure you could find a more "modern" one on fdroid. The real problems are things like google pay not working (not a deal breaker imo, but would be nice to have)

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Lineage has its own forks of most apps

[–] lucario_owo@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago

Most, but there are exceptions, mainly the messages app, calculator, phone app, and keyboard that I know for sure.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Tfw your Phone has no ROM and the stock one is trash.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I’m only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.

The problem with a Linux phone is that there’s no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.

We don’t get what we want. They do.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

There's also LineageOS after support. Still immutable done bad, but the toolset works.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Basically this. I use my phone as a tool and Linux phones don’t have the toolset for me to be satisfied. Like NFC payment, online banking and GPS tracking. Android does have the toolset but I’d like to keep my phone 5 years and longer. Currently rocking an iPhone 14 Pro and I plan on changing it with the iPhone 20 or 30 or however they call that one on 5 years.

[–] papercut@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

idk I enjoy LineageOS

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly I want Linux VOLTE so bad, the dream is to run sailfish os

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I run SailfishOS and Australia mandates VoLTE now. It works.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh nice, I’m in America and stuck on Verizon for work. I really was hoping to see VOLTE hit the OP6T

[–] byte_0verflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

But Linux for mobile exists, it is just not popular. For instance you can install Ubuntu Touch on certain phones.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you'd want to actually use today.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.

The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.

So Graphene it is then...

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

That's still way newer than I thought. I guess they started updating it again.

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[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Phosh has a great UI, I genuinely love it -- I'm just not thrilled by my phone's battery life when running any mobile linux

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Make a /system symlink and copy the drivers over?

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I'm currently trying to decide between private and repairable. Pixel with Graphene or an HMD Skyline. Wish Fairphone was an option.

How's picture quality with Graphene? How big a downgrade is it from the one packed on the stock pixel?

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It pains me to say, but the stock Google camera app is by far and away the best option I've yet found on Graphene. Which has to pair with the Photos app, or you can't actually do anything with the photos it takes.

However, you don't have to sync either with Google (though you do have to sign in), you can set Graphene to only allow them access to the folder they need (while they think they have wider access), and you can turn off network permission.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why is it that you can't do anything with the photos unless paired with the Photos App? Does the camera output in a proprietary format or something that Photos converts?

Definitely not going to sync with google though. I don't on my current phone either. I've degoogled as much as I can on my current phone lol

Thanks for your replies!

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

I have the Google camera app installed but not the photos app. The only thing is the button inside the camera app that shows a thumbnail of the last picture you took doesn't work as it's just a shortcut to the photos app.

Everything else about the Google camera app seems to work on Graphene. I didn't give it network permissions either.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I only use the camera for casual pictures and it's fine. It's still the same lenses and sensors after all. The camera app obviously isn't as all singing all dancing as stock but perfectly functional, has all the features you'd expect.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Right on, thanks for the reply.

I often have to snap tiny labels, have you had to do anything like that with yours?

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel

Yes and support for GNU/Linux applications is currently in beta.

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