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Microsoft is losing Builders fast. They're switching to MacOS and Linux. The biggest pull keeping people on Windows, outside of shear inertia, is content creation and gaming. However, even these are falling to Linux.

Without Builders, you don't have software, and without software, you don't have users. This is why Microsoft needs Windows Lite.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Microsoft is not going to remove .NET to attract software developers when they want developers to use .NET. Not having access to software that uses .NET probably wouldn't be a good trade off for how little removing it from Windows would do to make Windows lighter.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

There are also lots of games that use .NET.

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[–] 79WistfulVista@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

I'm a 30-year ex-Windows developer - started with C/C++ briefly, moved to Java for a few years, and then to C#/.NET for about 23 years. Good riddance to Microsoft Windows. The keyboard shortcuts may be forever ingrained into my reflexes, but I'd rather use Linux or MacOS.

No concerns about .NET however. It's a cross-platform development framework and works well. It's also quite fast now.

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[–] MSids@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (10 children)

If there was a viable Windows Lite, wouldn’t everyone just use that?

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 9 points 2 days ago

No, I'd use Linux

[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Right? Like if this exists, what's their draw for users to use the dogshit version?

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[–] minfapper@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hah! They don't care about "builders" or users. They care about business. Specifically large enterprises the have too many people to care about a single employee's individual productivity.

Microsoft caters mostly to them and is quite good at that.

But if you're an end user, gamer, or individual consumer, just move to Linux already. They don't care about you.

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[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Isn’t this just Windows Embedded?

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Windows and the fascist company behind it needs to die.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The biggest pull keeping people on Windows, outside of shear inertia, is content creation and gaming

You're forgetting the huge and much more lucrative market that is businesses. We literally can't switch away from windows because every single piece of engineering software we use only exists for windows. We can't program anything, configure anything, deploy anything or service anything if we're not running windows. Oh, a VM solution you suggest? wrong!, because the drivers needed to interface with the hardware are wonky as hell as is but inside VMs it gets the job borked half the time making my job unnecessary frustrating.

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[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

in sum, linux with backwards compatability (a lazy excuse for not cleaning stuff up) and DOS commands. oh, and closed source.

[–] IamLost@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm building a gaming PC that's gonna run Linux. To prep, I install my distro of choice (CachyOS) on an old laptop to check it out. It was fantastic. I'm confident saying, unless there's a very specific outlier reason, you don't need Windows anymore.

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But here's the big problem: stripping all of the terrible shit out of Windows doesn't make it better than Linux, it just makes it less bad than Windows is today.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (14 children)

fuck, they need that to retain business customers.

It's becoming ridiculous how much lost time there is at work because of Microsoft bullshit. Teams doesn't work, OneDrive doesn't sync, Outlook won't find anything for you, all of the office programs are becoming more difficult to use and slower...

I've got a team of about a dozen people and we probably lose an entire person's work day every single week just to Microsoft bullshit. not even regular issues, just straight up bullshit that shouldn't happen.

if I weren't so busy, I'd be looking into switching my team to Linux. but at some point it's going to get bad enough and I'm going to be low enough on work (lol okay not likely) that I'll be able to properly investigate a transition. Microsoft is the weak point of pretty much every process at our company.

except for excel. that's still doing okay. not great, but okay.

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[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

Good luck with that. Linux is what you are looking for and it's here already.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Micro$lop wants to become what IBM was. They want corporate money and subscriptions. They hate users anyway.

[–] r0bi@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The closest thing is LTSC, but Linux is easier to deal with imo

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