Head office too shitty to give us an actual asset management solution, but we did have full access to the Microsoft suite, so i used a SharePoint lists as databases, powerapps apps running on iPads for all the data entry ux and then like two dozen hacked together power automate flows linking them all together as well as taking any Info out of the actual IT systems head office used and since we didn't have API access to those system any data feeding back in to them would be in the form of automated emails that the poor 1st line techs in head office would have to sort through and process manually.

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

Nah bro, that bash alias is FULLY documented in .bashrc! Idiot.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 43 points 17 hours ago

I don't see the alias in your .bashrc

yeah, um, about that. I have no idea where it comes from. We can type alias and see what it is, so if it's ever lost, we can recreate it, but I looked for 30 minutes yesterday even did a grep -R and I have NO IDEA where it comes from, or why it's named electricboogaloo

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 30 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

My current project has a crontab with 216 entries.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 33 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Well, here's a sentence I haven't been tempted to use before:

"I believe that may be too many crontab entries."

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Any problem in server administration can be solved with an additional crontab entry. Except for the problem of too many crontab entries.

[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

And that's why I added a crontab entry that periodically purges my cron configuration. That way, I'm forced to readd only the truly necessary cron jobs, successfully reducing the amount of crontab entries.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

just randomly delete 50 of them.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. The strongest crontab entries will probably restore themselves. (For anyone reading along, this is sarcasm. Don't do this.)

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

a crontab can regenerate from bisection to form two whole crontabs

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

pshaw, just drop in there and combine a few

/etc/cron.d/first25 /etc/cron.d/second25 ...

[–] j_z@feddit.nu 1 points 9 hours ago

This is the way. Exactly what we did + migrated 80% of everything to k8s cronjobs and Argo workflows

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 8 points 16 hours ago

Use SystemD timers, you animal

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

At some point it may be good to migrate to airflow or something similar.

It's not the number of entries that makes it bad. It's the fact that if you run crontab, they are gone...

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

At first I thought you missed the -r. Then I checked. Defaulting to STDIN here is very, very dumb, IMHO. Almost as bad as putting the “edit” flag right next to the “delete everything without confirmation” flag on a Western keyboard (-e vs -r).

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Crontab is a really badly designed program that we just can't fix because everybody depends on its WFTs for something.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's why there's a crontab rule to load the crontab from a file. Cronception if you will.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Make the rule start a secondary cron system. Otherwise it won't run after you erase the crontab.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Here you go:

with-lock-ex -q /path/to/lockfile sh -c '
while true; do
    crontab cronfile;
    sleep 60;
done;'

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 55 points 20 hours ago

the final part of that is "written by person that left the company ten years ago"

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 92 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I have a tool that I wrote, probably 5+ years ago. Runs once a week, collects data from a public API, translates it into files usable by the asterisk phone server.

I totally forgot about it. Checked. Yep, up to date files created, all seem in the right format.

Sometimes things just keep working.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 51 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, had to debug a script that zipped a zip recursively, with the new data appended. The server had barely enough storage left, as the zip took almost 200GB (the data is only 3GB). I looked at the logs, last successful run: 2019

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, had the same happen. Something that should be simple failing for stupid reasons.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Well it's not that simple... Because whoever wrote that made it way too complicated (and the production version has been tweaked without updating the dev too)

A clean rewrite with some guard clauses helped remove the haduken ifs and actually zipping the file outside of the zipped directory helped a lot

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 18 hours ago

I mean, I have to say I've hastened my own demise (in program terms) by over-engineering something that should be simple. Sometimes adding protective guardrails actually causes errors when something changes.

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[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, all these simple data processing scripts will always work as long as both sides stay the same/compatible

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 20 points 21 hours ago

Yep. It seems they haven't changed a thing about the format. Probably a script much older than mine on their end is generating it too.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that true for all of data processing?

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Maybe. But webdevs have made it a mission not to seem like so

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'll hear NO aspersions against my precious Cron!

Cron is magic. Cron is civilization!

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

This might come in handy.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 15 hours ago

Naw, mate, that's Crom.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 35 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

OK, I got called out

[–] cenzorrll@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Ha, loser.

*glances over at 6 bash scripts and 2 cron jobs*

Not you, you're perfect

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 27 points 23 hours ago

Suck my dick O’Leary

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 21 hours ago

A self-written shell script "daemon" that tails & greps log output for "ERR|FAIL"

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

I know there's a meme here, but as a Canadian, I'm sorry about that traitorous asshat.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

I feel attacked

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

How can a shell alias be undocumented? Type alias, there is the oneliner that can't be too complicated due to lack of variables.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Nobody write down that if you run the stuff in a different machine, you have to create the alias first.

And once you lose the machine and are trying to restore your backups, you can't run alias and discover what doThingy actually does.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

alias thisdoessomething='cd /home/linuxuser/ && ./myscript.sh'

[–] elvith@feddit.org 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

alias cd='echo "command not found"'

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 20 hours ago

If you try hard enough

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[–] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Since I'm somewhat of a simpleton... isn't that how pipelines actually work? The only difference being, they're all (scripts) available from a centralized system and triggered i.e. with webhooks?

Instead of a local script on a server, the system opens i.e. a ssh session and runs the script step by step remotely?

So is that the joke or am I missing something?

[–] orhtej2@eviltoast.org 13 points 21 hours ago

Pipelines are meant to be versioned an replicable, as opposed to a hack job that only runs on a forgotten server in someone's closet depicted in the meme.

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