Harder to shot down a sub? Almost all countries can now make missiles that travel at Mach7+, 3x faster than fighter jets can fly. Like a Porshe vs. a Beetle, the Beetle doesn't stand a chance.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Hm, what country has the longest coastline in the world? Bordered by adversaries and target of smugglers and ~~scammers~~ corporations.

What country has recently been the target of threats and undermining by superpowers?

Honestly, a stronger Coast Guard needs to happen as well.

[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Because the US is no longer a reliable partner?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

Never were. Why are we buying jets? Because the US wouldn't let us have our own. You can apply the same to subs.

[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Well it's more than that. For us submarines really aren't about combat vessels as much as they are about surveillance platforms.

We have a hell of a lot of ocean that touches our country. Proper surveillance is absolutely critical. Not just of military threats but also criminal and other activity. You can do a certain amount with planes but they can't sit around and later forever watching a vessel and if they do the vessel knows they're being watched. Same as surface vessels.

So even if the Americans were still at work allies we would still need to have a submarine fleet that was large enough to reasonably patrol and monitor the absolutely vast amount of ocean we have to deal with. I don't think that any other country in the world has as much ocean directly touching them was Canada does, so of course we kind of need Subs

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

To add to this, our existing fleet is toast. Out of the 4 subs we own, only one is currently operational.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

And "operational" is still a bit of a stretch in terms of it's functional capabilities.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Who knows what's happening in all those lakes? Better safe than sorry, that's what I say!