All to watch Fat Man and Little Boy.
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One does wonder....
With so many generals and admirals together in the room, would they talk to eachother? Would they wonder if the country is going in the right direction? Would theyy be okay with being deployed in the US to arrest and fight citizens?
Would they talk about being okay having a drunk and irresponsible idiot as their boss who will push them to commit war crimes?
One wonders if any of these guys are willing to talk about better solutions
The best scenario we can hope for is for generals to simply refuse an illegal order, and when told to retire, refuse, and when reassigned to also refuse on the grounds that it's illegal punishment for refusing an illegal order.
Anything more and you're in coup territory, which sets the precedent that the military can step in and "correct" civilian government when it's wrong in their view. See, for example, Myanmar. Even after the military relinquished control to allow democracy, they still decided to "correct" that democracy when it started to drift from their wishes.
Myanmar is a bit different. It was under constant control of the military and families connect to it (which also got extremely rich through corruption).
They switched to "democracy" to get sanctions lifted, but they still controlled what government did. Once people voted on a bill that would remove their power and turn Myanmar to true democracy, that's when they stepped in and took control back to prevent it.
and they used aung sun suu kyi as a lightning rod, eventhough she had no power in the government.
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Refusing civilian government requests that violate the constitution is literally part of their oath. It is the highest and most important part. To cede ultimate authority to the constitution, to the law, and not to a leader.
This is an existential battle between those who want a framework of power that is a hierarchy and those, like the founders, who wanted a division of power across a community of leaders, to prevent monarchic hierarchies. If democracy falls to the consolidation of a hierarchy then the American experiment has concluded and we return to the age of kings and warlords. The dream of community rule, not individual power, must be tried elsewhere, with whatever learnings can be gained, like the influence of power of private capital and the role of wealth on democratic integrity.
I hope American patriots, those who believe in the separation of power as the founders did, win this battle.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Well, it's also part of the oath the civilian leadership takes, for what it's worth.
Point is, you want the military to say "you can't tell me to do that" and not "I won't let you do that".
The latter is the military exerting power over the civilian government, which is a deeply dangerous precedent.
Agreed.
These generals have been doing war crimes for decades for money. You think they will stop taking orders when they tell them to turn their guns on you? These soulless fucks execute orders as told, and would gladly kill you for a promotion
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Honestly, I’m just happy they didn’t lock them in and burn the building down.
I mean there’s two ways to interpret this and one of them doesn’t make me all that sad
How to waste money 🙂
I don't think the meeting goals are what has been discussed.
This might have been : 1) prepare for war with Iran, or 2) gather intelligence on these people to see who might be a problem they need to get rid of before the 4 years mark.
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I think there was more to this than just pointlessness. Say, you want to have a meeting with specific leaders, but you know that bringing them in will get out, and folks may be able to figure out what you're up to based on who you bring in for the meeting.
So, you bring every leader in for a pointless meeting publicly, while then having a secret meeting afterwards with the actual leaders you wanted to talk with.
Who they actually wanted to talk to, i don't know, but my guess it was the leaders stationed in the Middle East, based on all the ships we've been sending to the region, as well as Trump's ultimatum to Hamas, and the recently announced plan to turn Gaza over to Tony Blair. I have a strong feeling Trump is sending American troops in to help Israel take over Gaza entirely.
Why hide that though? Who would stop America from invading Gaza? The kind of subterfuge you are suggesting would be more likely before an invasion of say Europe, China, or Russia. Or a coup.
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We could clip and simplify that headline to "Hegseth's pointless".
I bet those people shoved in the back corners are even more pissed to be there
if it was trump ordering it, he wouldnt even give them chairs to sit in.
Look at all those guys and their big important medals and their little hats.
A bunch of fatties
and a lot of baldies