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For years, tech giants have argued that if information is available on the internet, it can be used for AI model development and outputs. They call it fair use. Content owners have tried to prevent this, with no success.

Now Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google are discovering what the rest of the internet has already learned through painful experience: once you put something online, people will find ways to use it in ways you don't like and can't stop.

The latest flashpoint is something called "distillation," using the outputs of one AI model to improve another. Anthropic says competitors are harvesting its outputs at scale, turning billions of dollars of research into a shortcut for rivals. OpenAI and Google have made similar warnings recently.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Photo of the violin being played.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Too low resolution, no amount of zooming would reveal it.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The photo did not come through for me on my end, but the alt text did. And my question to you is, is this a tiny violin?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes. It's there. Just super duper tiny.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You just need to keep zooming to see it. It takes awhile but it is worth it!

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not good. Investors hate costly and protracted legal fights. There was another story about OpenAI stealing tech from apple and I think some kind of data leak maybe? If investors lose confidence in OpenAI that pretty much pops the bubble.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With hundreds of billions in their warchests, are there enough lawfirms in the world to meet their legal needs in the coming battle?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cheaper to get politicians to rule in your favour.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago

Political lobbying is just a higer form of lawyering... most legislators (and virtually all judges) are ex-lawyers.

[–] tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

" ...with no success or assistance from any governing body or public group. Creators are a subclass worth extracting any livelihood from them and diverting those markets towards ruling class distribution networks." FTFY

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

havnt they realized they eventually will train thier "llm" on slop created by other LLM slop.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

That was a problem that's been basically solved. So no, it's not actually an issue anymore.

That's why this is happening. You basically want to train a model that's going to train the next model and that's going to train the next model.

Doing a bunch of other fancy s*** means that each consecutive level improves the quality instead of reducing it.

So we're at the point where it's more effective to let your opponent do all the heavy, more expensive training of the less effective model. Then train the model that you want to make on that because paying them to run their finished model is cheaper than making it in the first place to train the next one.

In a sense, it's sort of like compression. The harder you compress the longer and more expensive and more difficult it becomes. So ideally you want to be the last guy in the chain to do the final compression so you get a reap all of the rewards without any of the overhead.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah they call that artificial data and tout it as a good thing

[–] mynameisbob@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was always about controlling the narrative. Thats it. oh and raping and killing kids

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 2 days ago

And genocide and surveillance states.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 9 points 2 days ago

Awww fucking diddums.

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