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[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges, begging on the streets and stealing bread.

Anatole France, 1894

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

I commented that exact quote several times on Lemmy, nice to see other people do the same!

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (25 children)

Working class: "Can we have meaningful reform?"

Conservatives: "No."

Liberals: "No 😘 🌈 "

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I’m frustrated with the reflexive "both sides are equally bad" response that shuts down any meaningful analysis of what's actually happening in our politics.

I'm not naive about the Democratic Party's problems. They struggle with internal divisions, sometimes cave to corporate pressure, and they’ve made compromises that disappointed their base. But when I look at voting records, policy proposals, and legislative priorities, I see meaningful differences that have real consequences for people's lives.

On issues I care about (healthcare access, climate action, voting rights, ext.) one party consistently proposes solutions and votes for them when they have the numbers. The other party doesn’t just oppose these policies, they fight tooth and nail to undermine them, delay them, or dismantle them entirely. That’s not a matter of opinion. That’s a matter of public record.

When Democrats fail to deliver, it’s often because they lack sufficient majorities or face procedural roadblocks. When they do have power, they’ve passed significant legislation on infrastructure, climate investment, and healthcare expansion. Meanwhile, when Republicans have unified control, their priorities have been tax cuts for the wealthy and rolling back environmental protections.

I understand the appeal of cynicism. It can feel sophisticated to dismiss all politicians as equally corrupt. But that cynicism serves the interests of those who benefit from the status quo.

If you can't tell the difference between someone trying to reform a broken system and someone actively working to keep it broken, you're not offering insight. You're providing cover for obstruction.

Does this mean Democrats are perfect? Of course not. Should we hold them accountable when they fall short? Absolutely. But pretending there are no meaningful differences between the parties just because neither is perfect makes it harder to build the coalitions we need to create the change we actually want to see.

[–] shads@lemy.lol 1 points 7 months ago

From my detached non American (but still a citizen of the planet so likely to get fucked hard by the way Americans vote) point of view, seems like Americans are continually letting perfect be the enemy of least bad. "Well since Democrats are kinda bad in these instances maybe we should just go fully fascist theological doom cult. That will force the Democrats to improve, or kill us all."

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

The more accurate form of the comment to which you're reacting would be:

Can I have a free beer?

Conservatives: No

Liberals: Points to novelty sign on wall Free Beer Tomorrow winks "so you want a beer today? That'll be $8.99"

The results aren't exactly the same, but the gulf is not meaningful is the problem. Realistically, most people don't actually like either party, they just dislike the other party more. If one day we had a 7 random parties just appear and Rs and Ds vanish, for a solid 20 years, political discourse would be verdant and nuanced in a way rarely seen in the US.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I agree with you that the parties are not the same. The GOP are outright evil puppets of the billionaire class. The Democrats are ineffectual cowards who've made careers out of paying lip service to the right thing, and every now and then doing something helpful if it's convenient for them and doesn't piss off their billionaire donors. A lot of the time that ends up translating to the same results for most people.

I don't buy the "sorry, our hands are tied" line we always get from the left. Dems throw up their hands even when they do have majorities. The first meaningful opportunity the Democrats had to obstruct Trump's agenda, after the left base had been screaming for weeks for their representatives to do something, Schumer rolled over immediately. I can't take this party seriously anymore.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

the left

Democrats are definitely not leftist. Center right would be more apt.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Think of the kids.

But don’t do anything.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"No kid should ever have to sleep on the streets, so we made it borderline impossible for them to physically do so. Hopefully their bootstraps figure out someplace they can sleep, because we sure as hell didn't. You're welcome."

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most of the -ism's get you here. The only one that doesn't: Peppa Pigism

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

'Isms', what does that word mean?

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Words with the -ism suffix. Like capitalism, authoritarianism, veganism, etc.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, no named ideas? Only deluzean thought-soup?

Is it cool if im super neitzchean about it, since that doesnt end in 'ism'?

What about ideas from stirnerism?

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's stirnerean -doesn't apply

Generally called -ism.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

Oh, I didn't realize it was kids hour for neolibs to comment on lemmy.

Well, get your ignorance out now kids, it is gonna hurt less than if you deny it wayyyyy into your adulthood....

sigh

falls asleep on bench

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Revisiting and damn I made a good call to turn off notifications.

My visionary foresight knows no limits

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Ok, but the people at Covenant House aren't the ones who decided to put the anti-homeless architecture in place.

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