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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While there are still cheaper DDR5 options at lower speeds, the 32GB of DDR5 @ 8000MT I bought at $579 in February is now $700 on Amazon and even more elsewhere.

At the time I was convinced that the industry was moving towards a full-leasing only model, and so I decided to invest in some future proofing. It took less than 6 months for the price to start jumping again. Whether this is deliberate, or simply an emergent quality of supply/demand of the new AI economy probably doesn’t matter. The bar for private compute power is being shoved higher and higher by data centers and the PC industry’s response is to move towards a leasing model.

I foresee that eventually that when PC hardware becomes too expensive or completely unavailable in consumer markets, your PC will become like your phone - a locked-down, remotely managed, integrated hardware system that you lease as a unit, along with a cloud services subscription. Or, a thin client with the bare minimum specs to accommodate cloud computing. Extrapolating from this - a privatized Internet hostile to client computers unauthenticated by a major company or government entity running a recognized digital fiefdom where uncontrolled local compute will be viewed as highly suspicious.

If you still have the means and the interest, I suggest investing in consumer PC hardware to:

  1. Demonstrate this market is still viable.

  2. Buy hardware before it jumps in price again.

  3. Claw back some of the local compute power being engineered away from consumers.

Of course, the AI economic bubble is due for collapse and cheap hardware may suddenly flood the market in a few years. However, I’m betting there is enough runway and monetization left to fund the pathway to the end of common PC ownership.

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[–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago
[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[2028] Apple announces that they will no longer sell phones to consumers, only rent them. "Our customers love the ease of monthly rental payments that never stop and we listened!" said one Apple exec.

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[–] xSikes@feddit.online 3 points 2 days ago
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 2 days ago

Exploit, not defeat.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago

knew this was coming. it's Apple's MO since...like....ever since the company started. Let someone else do it first and then try to do it better. HP is already doing this, Apple is going to "improve it".

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

People lease apartments, houses, cars, appliances, games, why not crapples?

[–] nilzen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You will own nothing... and then you will realize you have nothing to lose. try realizing that sooner than later.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago
[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

I don't get the general criticism. It will all depend on details. If you can "rent" a $1000 device for $500 in payments over 2 years, and have the option to pay $500 at end of 2 years, or pay $250 over the next 2 years, then that is a better deal for you, including the delayed payments, and your optionality. If rampocalypse is over in 2 years, you can get a better device. How far away from the above formula implementation is matters though.

An advantage with buying a "good phone" is that Apple needs to keep their trade in incentives high to get you to upgrade later. Lease provides a clear upfront proposition instead of hoping for future Apple generosity.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Uhh people are financing their weekly groceries now, dumb as this is I am not exactly stressing it, being able to lease cars didn't take away cars from the rest of us.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

You don't see a problem with what you said? And since you don't FUCK YOU.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

"Fuck you, I got mine" attitude.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, don't new iPhones and Macs have that unified memory? Maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't Apple be in the best position with regards to memory prices in their products?

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, you are missing something. You are assuming they get their memory from a different supplier than the rest of the industry.

For some reason lots of people assume this.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

My understanding, though, is they have their own chip specs, for custom die nobody else uses , and they integrate that into their chiplets or whatever it is they are using. So it's not like those vendors can just sell those die to other customers. Whoever is making Apple's RAM is making it specifically for them.

Unless their contracts with Apple have some sort of escalation clause, I would figure Apple would be pretty insulated from all this price nonsense. Heck, they have enough cash on hand that I bet they can buy a smaller RAM vendor if they had to. It mainly depends on how much of that custom RAM tech they own vs. licensing from any particular vendor. If they are using patents from their vendor, then that makes it harder to just switch.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I see. Yeah, I think the problem is that they can’t insulate themselves from the overall production timeline constraints. Because even if their chips are unique, they don’t have their own private production lines. They only get a share of available production capacity.

And as I understand it. Buying out a memory production facility is something they are not interested in. They don’t want to be in that part of the supply chain. And getting in now, only for memory supply chain constraints to go back to “normal” in 2 years isn’t a strategy they want to take.

Apple would rather have a diverse supply chain, and have the ability to pit different vendors against each other.

Some of this is similar to why just building a new facility isn’t a solution in the near term either. Because by the time it’s online, the situation is likely to have passed. And then you are back in a commodity market that’s historically difficult to compete in.

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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Glad I scooped up an M4 Mac Mini earlier this year before all this RAM shortage. Say what you will about Apple, but their M chips are great. Leasing a laptop though? Yeah, no.

So Apple fanatics trade in their iPhone for the newest one every year. Does Apple executives think that maybe they can get folks to do the same on their laptop?

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