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I know there are tools that supposedly make it harder for AI to be trained on your images. But what about text or code? Is there any way to share things outside of a small group while minimizing the risk that some fucker will scrape them or otherwise use them for building an LLM?

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[–] bryndos@fedia.io 1 points 4 minutes ago

Encryption, just give the key to people in person.

Ask me and all my friends that ask me to whatsP And i say, no . . . lets simpleX. yeah nah. All the friends i only speak to in person. its fine though inertnrt is shite.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Trying to prevent bits from being copied is always going to be futile.

In the long-ago times, websites that didn't want crawlers to scrape them had a /robots.txt file that described what was and wasn't allowed to be scraped.

But, the AI companies completely ignore that file. In fact, if anything, they may use it to find the "juicier" stuff to scrape. I know plenty of people who have decades of experience in running web servers who are going to extreme lengths (like banning entire countries, or huge IP ranges) to prevent what amounts to a DDOS on their servers from AI-company scrapers, because anything less extreme than that doesn't work. For some of these people, more than 90% of the traffic they get is from AI scrapers. In fact, it seems like if you try to do something to discourage scrapers from AI companies, they think there's something even juicier there and work even harder to get at it.

If they can find it, they'll ingest it. And, these companies have spent literal billions on working around any attempt to prevent them from ingesting things, because they believe that whichever company manages to ingest the most content will come up with the best model.

If you have some kind of moral exception to your work ever ending up in an LLM, then you're really out of luck. You better take up oil painting and never allow pictures of your art to be taken. The slop machines are hungry, and anything that becomes bits and ends up online will eventually be scraped.

As for making money as an artist, that's another matter. It has always been hard, now it's even harder. I don't think you'll make it easier for yourself by trying to prevent your stuff from being scraped. That just adds extra headaches you don't need.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 26 minutes ago

glue traps are a good solution to badly-behaved scrapers. just list a path in your robots.txt that slowly produces random text and links, all of which go to the same sort of page. if they respect robots.txt, they're fine. if they don't, they get stuck ingesting nonsense.

not a catch-all solution but a good tool.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Glaze (aka Nightshade) implants 'poisoned' data in your images that will ruin any data sets they're put into (just learned to read, but leaving it up in case peeps don't know about it).

[–] bowsertattoo@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago

As a creator, I feel that my only recourse is to find an audience that will trust and respect me regardless of whether others steal my work. Foster that community. Sadly, there will always be plagiarists. But I hope communities (like on the fediverse) will become strong enough to be self-sufficient.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The short answer is that you can't, really, anymore. You can put up barriers, but if your work is sufficiently "good" or popular, it will eventually leak and be ingested. Authentication (i.e. completely private websites) is the only real protection, but it has to be controlled by you or someone you trust, and in that case you're severely limiting your reach/availability.

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Anything that can be copied can eventually be leaked. However, if you are OK with just reducing the chance by 99%, a private repo/page with an "ask me for access" instruction keeps pretty much all current LLM scrapers out.

[–] iusemybrain@sh.itjust.works 0 points 57 minutes ago

easy; make a website on the dark web.

crawlers work by finding https sites and with tor being on http (and hence onion addresses being on http) the crawlers would need to be re-engineered to search http as well as https. tor is slow, so by putting it on the tor network, it's just a massive fuck you to data surveillance.

but wait, you can even be a bigger scumb by adding JS to your website. that basically makes loading it take several seconds (or minutes) longer for a regular user (depending on the data throuput of their internet connection) so imagine what it would be like with tech companies.

the point isn't to eliminate data surveillance its to be such a condescending asshole, that tech companies wouldn't bother caring for your full ass, 10-stage JS compilation, torified website.

If you couldn't tell, I've thought about this question a lot... I like seeing tech companies suffer.