Lazy shits.... good. It means the teacher cares. Lucky
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Gibson shared some of the most examples in a follow-up video.
The most examply of examples, presumable?
If you're just rehashing someone else's video for your "article" can't you at least check your language?
At least you know it was written by a human 🙂 I honestly welcome dumb spelling and grammar mistakes nowadays - and I never thought I'd ever say that - as a sign that I'm probably not reading slop.
Our professor did the same thing last year. There was this MIPS assembly tasks and he added extra info there lol
Good on him for catching them out, but they should've received more severe a punishment for such blatant and lazy cheating.
And explaining how you caught them doesn't make them less likely to cheat in the future, it simply makes them less likely to be caught doing so.
It's been a good long while, but when I was a student, cheating got you automatically expelled - temporarily for a small "casual" case of plagiarism, permanently for anything more egregious.
I guess things have changed.
Colleges have become profit obsessed and students are the cash cows. Expulsion is bad for revenue.
Policy where I teach is that it's up to the professor's discretion, though that's mostly because it's not always as easy to prove as this. There's a boilerplate anti cheating section we have in our syllabus that says it's a reportable offense that may lead to academic probation or expulsion.
Honestly, it's also a ton of paperwork so I've just opted to fail them since usually my papers aren't so easily answered via an LLM and rather than tell them I caught them cheating, I simply point out they missed rubric item 2, 5 and 6 so it's something solid, not my speculation. But I also haven't white texted them yet, lol.
Yeah. When I was a student, I got sent to an academic misconduct panel just suspected of cheating, and was told I absolutely could be expelled if they found out I had actually done it.
And sure, in reality somebody had copied my work and I could prove it, so I was fine - but at least they bothered to actually investigate in my example!
I know policies are different between institutions, but these students got caught red-handed not just plagiarising, but outright faking coursework submissions. Why is there no investigation into their previous coursework, no misconduct panel interviews, literally nothing apart from failing the specific part of the mid-term they were caught cheating on.
No wonder they don't give a damn when the punishment for being caught has so little teeth!
As you say, times have changed for the worse.
Well, the source for this story is the professor in a short form video, who doesn't explicitly say there wasn't any further punishment afaik.
I haven't actually seen it though because the fucking idiot himself is equally morally bankrupt by posting it on a weapon run by Beijing.
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Good. Is there an office on student conduct at the place he worked? Has he reported the students as cheaters already?
32/35?! Cheesus Crackers. The microplastics were already making us stupid, now whatever's left is being melted by corpos.
I think it's supposed to mean 35 people failed, 32 of those because of AI.
That professor was more charitable than I would have been, not failing all those students out of the entire class immediately.
Back when I was in university, if you got caught cheating, you got expelled immediately. Now, all you get is possibly a slightly lower score on your midterm?
This is bullshit
I hate how many posts on LinkedIn are “AI is inevitable, we might as well use it everywhere”… um, no. Develop critical thinking and the ability to do it on your own and then, maybe, just maybe, use it as a tool, not a replacement.
Why fail the other three? Only 32 out of 35 were caught.
The midterm, by the way, was about the Industrial Revolution.
I get it, you spent a fortune on this class so you could have a job that will allow you to maybe retire someday. You don't even give a shit about this class or the material, you don't care about history and you just needed the credit. It has literally nothing to do with any of the jobs you might get in the future, if you learn nothing it won't make a difference. If you study and try your best you still might not actually get a good grade. The temptation to cheat would be hard to resist.
All AI has done is reveal a deeper problem with college - students aren't there to learn, they're there to be credentialed.
Failure to learn about the industrial revolution is how we end up with tech workers who bitch about AI but still refuse to unionize.
Yes and no.
Yes, degrees are credentials and sadly many people just want those instead of having any inherent interest.
But no, because those credentials are not empty words, but are supposed to mean something. You might not need to know about the industrial revolution in your job (and looking at the way our world develops right now, I would say industrial revolution and its changes in society are very relevant right now), but the credential for it is supposed to show that you are able to learn about a topic, read relevant literature and then apply that knowledge in analysing things. THAT is the goal of going to college. And most jobs (edit: that really require a certain college degree) need exactly that kind of skill. Which students don't learn if they let a probability machine do the "thinking" for them.
Right, they're supposed to mean something
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In University I would hope most people in the class are there because they DO have an interest. On the other hand, if I could have cheated on organic chemistry like this, I probably would have.
On the other, other hand, we would copy eachothers work, but at least we'd change it enough so that it wouldn't be obvious. It's not that the new generation cheats more, it's that they're bad at it.
Also, we didn't write a lot of paragraphs of text in chemistry, so maybe my experience is skewed there too
if you don't mind, what field are you in that you were examined in ochem but you don't use ochem? last time i've checked, chatbots crap the bed constantly when asked about anything that you can deduce (easily, by analogy) but can't find, especially as text, the mistakes were either glaring or sneaky but never correct. it's much easier to express what you mean by drawings in ochem anyway
But would you have been able to? Ochem wouldn't give access to laptops and just be a paper and pencil exam.
External devices would be banned from the get go so attempting to use your phone or laptop would get you a 0 for cheating.
These professors seem pretty dumb allowing all sorts of open access to devices during exams that are completely open to view and run anything and get surprised people are using AI. Why does a history exam need a computer with open access anyways. This isn't a programming course.
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This is very satisfying!
These all seem like problems easily avoided if internet access and devices weren't allowed, and the exam was just paper and pencil, which most courses gain nothing from. Especially non programming courses like history.
There's also exam software that lock down laptops so only the exam can be accessed until it is finished if a professor insists on digital submission.
Professors seem as dumb as the students for finding all sorts of convoluted ways to try to stop AI based cheating during exams when the solution is to look back to their own past at how exams were given to them. Idiots.
I had to do my compsci AP tests in pencil on paper lol
That software is literal malware, though. If it's a laptop that's given to me by the university, ok, but no way in hell that malware is allowed to run on my hardware
Yeah I didn't like it so ran it on an old laptop just for exams and not my personal one.
But, if schools really wanted to it is possible to have digital exams where the usual browser bypasses aren't a thing, and the laptops cant be used for internet searches, AI queries, etc.
Without that you might as well just go with an open book, open internet, open ai, group messages, use whatever is at your disposal type exam. Because rules at that point is pretty pointless.
These all seem like problems easily avoided if internet access and devices weren’t allowed
Believe it or not, cheating was very much a thing before the internet and before electronic devices.
Story time:
I tried to cheat on my high school's final exam. Well, I didn't try to cheat, but rather I wanted to prepare cheat-sheets in case my memory failed me during the exam - but otherwise I intended to try and take the tests fair and square.
But... getting caught cheating carried a really heavy penalty in those days. So I decided to prepare the ultimate cheat-sheets that I could not be spotted consulting: I wrote them in Braille, so I could stick them under my desk and read them with my fingers during the exam.
But I quickly discovered that Braille is really hard - both reading and writing, both in long form and abbreviated forms. But I'm nothing if not persistent. So I learned basic Braille in the course of 6 months during my senior year.
On the day of the exam, I had spent so much time preparing my cheat-sheets that I knew them by heart, and I didn't need them 🙂 But I spent the rest of my life volunteering my time in various associations for the blinds - one of the very few visually-abled volunteers who could read Braille for some odd reason 🙂
The funny part is it would have been less effort to just study for the exam.
Yeah but here's the thing: I could not focus for the life of me. Studying bored me to tears. This cheating "project" of mine is something I chose to do, so I kept at it, and it got me to study without realizing it.
Makes sense to me, I hated studying certain subjects in school, and I think it's because nothing in them was relatable. The ones I liked and did well with had some connection to something meaningful to me. The rest were a struggle and I barely passed or even failed their exams. The fear of poor marks wasn't enough.
The fear of poor marks never scared me: when I was a kid, there were good jobs for anybody who was half-clever without a degree.
Nowadays, I wouldn't fear poor marks either: there are no jobs left for anybody anyway.
I know cheating was a thing, but now devices that people would have loved to have access to when internet was a thing like phones and laptops being allowed in exams makes prep like yours not even necessary. In some schools teachers collect people's phones for instance and dont allow people to bring out other electronics.
It's why I don't even get why professors are even upset at AI use during exams if they are allowing these devices to begin with.
Its like giving a math exam and telling students calculators aren't allowed to be used, but you may bring and use your calculator for non calculation purposes. Then being surprised they dared to use the calculator for calculating.
You don't even have to try to be sneaky and try to hide that you are cheating anymore with how easy some schools make it now.
Pen and paper exams waste a lot of class time and are a hassle to grade. I've considered the option, but the better go to is an oral component so at least they practice their public speaking skills.
As for lockdown browser, it only stops some people but ultimately is easy to bypass. It also has screwed students with worse Internet, so it's not my preference. Guidelines still require exams, but I devalued them as ultimately it's better to just not rely on exams and lean into semester long projects that are much harder to bullshit and have a practical impact on learning.
Its not a browser that locks down. It actual software that completely hijacks the computer so you cant exit the program until it is done. Can't get into the desktop at all like some malware.
You are making it seem more difficult than it is. Problem is already solved. By making it something open hardware and Internet might as well just give everyone a pass at that point and not complain about whatever tools are used when full access hardware is allowed to be used.
guess i should screenshot and ocr instead of copy pasting! /s
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