32/35?! Cheesus Crackers. The microplastics were already making us stupid, now whatever's left is being melted by corpos.
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That professor was more charitable than I would have been, not failing all those students out of the entire class immediately.
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The midterm, by the way, was about the Industrial Revolution.
I get it, you spent a fortune on this class so you could have a job that will allow you to maybe retire someday. You don't even give a shit about this class or the material, you don't care about history and you just needed the credit. It has literally nothing to do with any of the jobs you might get in the future, if you learn nothing it won't make a difference. If you study and try your best you still might not actually get a good grade. The temptation to cheat would be hard to resist.
All AI has done is reveal a deeper problem with college - students aren't there to learn, they're there to be credentialed.
Failure to learn about the industrial revolution is how we end up with tech workers who bitch about AI but still refuse to unionize.
Yes and no.
Yes, degrees are credentials and sadly many people just want those instead of having any inherent interest.
But no, because those credentials are not empty words, but are supposed to mean something. You might not need to know about the industrial revolution in your job (and looking at the way our world develops right now, I would say industrial revolution and its changes in society are very relevant right now), but the credential for it is supposed to show that you are able to learn about a topic, read relevant literature and then apply that knowledge in analysing things. THAT is the goal of going to college. And most jobs (edit: that really require a certain college degree) need exactly that kind of skill. Which students don't learn if they let a probability machine do the "thinking" for them.
No, that's the point of the credential for the employer. For the student, the credential is just a box you need to check that lets employers filter out the people they don't want, and why would the student give a shit about that?
That's what I said?
why would the student give a shit about that?
Because if the job really needs those skills than that student better learns fast or is fucked and will lose the job.
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In University I would hope most people in the class are there because they DO have an interest. On the other hand, if I could have cheated on organic chemistry like this, I probably would have.
On the other, other hand, we would copy eachothers work, but at least we'd change it enough so that it wouldn't be obvious. It's not that the new generation cheats more, it's that they're bad at it.
Also, we didn't write a lot of paragraphs of text in chemistry, so maybe my experience is skewed there too
if you don't mind, what field are you in that you were examined in ochem but you don't use ochem? last time i've checked, chatbots crap the bed constantly when asked about anything that you can deduce (easily, by analogy) but can't find, especially as text, the mistakes were either glaring or sneaky but never correct. it's much easier to express what you mean by drawings in ochem anyway
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But would you have been able to? Ochem wouldn't give access to laptops and just be a paper and pencil exam.
External devices would be banned from the get go so attempting to use your phone or laptop would get you a 0 for cheating.
These professors seem pretty dumb allowing all sorts of open access to devices during exams that are completely open to view and run anything and get surprised people are using AI. Why does a history exam need a computer with open access anyways. This isn't a programming course.
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Most people are learning about the Industrial Revolution in college because they need a credit for their degree. A few people are learning history because it's actually something they're interested in, everyone else is interested in other classes that have nothing to do with this one. It's just another tedious box they need to check so they don't have to work until they die.
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This is very satisfying!
These all seem like problems easily avoided if internet access and devices weren't allowed, and the exam was just paper and pencil, which most courses gain nothing from. Especially non programming courses like history.
There's also exam software that lock down laptops so only the exam can be accessed until it is finished if a professor insists on digital submission.
Professors seem as dumb as the students for finding all sorts of convoluted ways to try to stop AI based cheating during exams when the solution is to look back to their own past at how exams were given to them. Idiots.
Pen and paper exams waste a lot of class time and are a hassle to grade. I've considered the option, but the better go to is an oral component so at least they practice their public speaking skills.
As for lockdown browser, it only stops some people but ultimately is easy to bypass. It also has screwed students with worse Internet, so it's not my preference. Guidelines still require exams, but I devalued them as ultimately it's better to just not rely on exams and lean into semester long projects that are much harder to bullshit and have a practical impact on learning.
Its not a browser that locks down. It actual software that completely hijacks the computer so you cant exit the program until it is done. Can't get into the desktop at all like some malware.
You are making it seem more difficult than it is. Problem is already solved. By making it something open hardware and Internet might as well just give everyone a pass at that point and not complain about whatever tools are used when full access hardware is allowed to be used.
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Looking at the linked TikTok... Is that professor using these shitty ~~Spyware~~ Meta Glasses? I think I saw camera lenses in there... That's not really any better than what the students did imo, if anything these glasses are worse because these things automatically involve people who have never had a chance to consent. At least the students got caught extremely easily, that's more than most people who use these shitty glasses have to fear.
Like good on him to have exposed the students. But work on yourself too please.
Too small and too thin to be the Facebook glasses.
If they're not all's good but damn do they look similar. That there's parts looking like camera lenses (which is what I hyper focused on) really doesn't help at all. Just further proof all this AI is just trash though, it just turns everyone into a suspect.