"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
The argument the mod writes is π
Update : thereβs a new one that appears but, Iβve checked, thatβs the same mod as the others
Update 2 : got contacted by the mod, overall sweet guy/gal we agree to disagree and keep the ban up, who said that Lemmy cannot be civil
You donβt need to redact your rap sheet, itβs public.
LCARS was a data access and retrieval system capable of doing calculations and simulations. It was not, I REPEAT, was not "artificial intelligence". It did not try to act or sound sentient, it simply responded to commands and ran programs.
There is at least one instance where it was written as sapient in TNG. That was mostly for a joke, though. Specifically, there was a running gag in early TNG with Data getting a bit too into defining things and someone (usually Picard) would interrupt him with something along the lines of, "Thank you, Data, we get it." In one scene, Data is alone and only talking to the computer, which gives the line there.
Update 2 makes me smile.
Obviously Iβm not enough of an AI hater cause I ainβt been banned from shit.
These people understand Star Trek is fictional, often takes place on quasi-military vessels, and depicts a society that has some significant differences from our own, right?
But let's for a moment ignore that it is fictional. Star Trek's economical system is communism, I wonder if they also embrace it?
A friend has compared generative AI to the electric monks from Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective agency.
I've found that the AI chatbots feel a lot like the Genunine People Peronalities from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Youβll have to spark my memories because I donβt remember those
From Dirk Gently
The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.
In the book, an alien ship crashed on earth, the crew asked an electric monk if their ship was repaired. The monk responded that it believed it was, the aliens tried to take off, and then the ship exploded because it wasn't actually repaired.
In Hitchhiker's Guide, Genuine People Personalities were AIs that tended to be obnoxiously cheerful, neurotic, or hyperactive. Doors with a GPP would sigh with pleasure when they opened and loudly ask if they did a good job if someone told them to open quietly, for example.
God ! Douglas Adams was fucking funny. What a shame he didnβt got to see our time
He had a unique way with words. I sometimes wonder how he'd feel about having essentially predicted how AI turned out.
Lol, they think the computers in star trek were just LLMs
After Tesseract and now this, it raises a question. Do people that call themselves conservatives have to always be contrarians?
Literally any topic. There were issues that one would think everyone would agree on and they still surprise you.
the true AI are usually the holograms, or a robotic race but it seems limited. but they are pretty much not as extensively integrated like the Andromeda series, the ship has an AI that is pretty integrated into all the ships systems(can appear as a hologram or as an android, or upload into multiple robots at once) and perform most of the task the crew requires.
Imagine if the computer on star trek operated the way it does in every episode where the computer is malfunctioning. That's how real-world "AI" works. You ask to go to the bridge and it keeps sending your ass to engineering and ten forward.
Also: They didn't even mention Data who is more AI than even the ship's computer!
You must be doing something right lmao
Being banned from these cesspools should be a badge of honor.
lol I got similar treatment by those dipshits a few months ago
bdzer0's claim to be anarchist yet wholly embracing AI is some cognitive dissonance that I cannot wrap my head around.
What a strange take. That's like saying you couldn't be trotskyist and embrace industry in 1919.
Genuinely my biggest gripe with their entire instance. How do they not realize that by using LLMs you rob yourself of the chance to gain new skills in art or coding?
Plus the fact that they are literally sucking up to techbro billionaire oligarchs pushing this nonsense by doing so.
I guess the techbro in them overrules the anarchist.
they oddlly crossbanned me from multiple comms i dont vist at all, thier reason was a vague"whatabotism" i couldnt find the actual offense, checked the modlogs. so i think they did it like some reddit subs did. i participate din a comm they dint like and just crossbanned me.
Lmao the one Europe one in the middle.
Man DBzer0 really sucks. That's the one place I've been mass banned from (although it is because there was a troll using my name, but they never even responded to an unban request), I should check if it applies to the ai dumping communities too.
same here, i checked the modlogs, and it was "troll whabaotism" but i found no original comment/post that triggered it. i think they just banned people who participated in a community they dint like.
"stable_diffusion_furry"
My dude, you're in a subculture that basically revolves around human art and creativity. Get out of your ass.
Risk management protocol π€£
Beep Boop Ban
And yet Star Trek still had to have a human repeat all what the A.I. was saying to make sure it wasn't shite.
It happens when you post here, you don't even have to interact with their community. Instead they come here, by their own volition, to be angry about us not liking AI and they then decide to ban every name they come across. This community existing is insult enough for them. Thankfully they self-isolate for the most part.
are you saying people here may have been banned by communities without even knowing? fascinating :o I wouldn't even know how to check that
I was banned from a whole bunch of AI slop communities for 'persistent trolling' ... but I'd never posted to any of them, so ... yes. They ban you preemptively.
I got curious and just looked up my profile in the ban log and it seems I am banned as well in a handful of random (same mod in all of them I assume) dbozer communities without having posted in any of them, with the reason given being "Troll account" (no mention of AI).
So yup, just a power mad mod being cultish about their AI-slop, who probably just banned anybody who posts in here.
I mean.. That kind of sounds like they're doing a public service, TBH π
Iβd agree but itβs pretty fucking gross to ban people that have never even visited your community.
I legitimately think anyone here would deserve a ban if they went over there and said shit. We clearly donβt belong but weβre here minding our own business.
Yeah, the preemptive nature of the ban shows some extreme fragility. It would be like the mods of this channel going to the slop celebration channels and banning anybody who posted there.
It reminds me of that old Reddit meme when people were banned from /r/Pyongyang
Yes, but its not a problem. Usually the mod just bans you from their personal AI dumping ground.
Oh nooooooo I'm banned from the septic tank I didn't want to see in the first place oh noooook
Joke's on them, I hate Star Trek too.
Communities, not instances. Startrek.website is one instance, lemmy.today is another. An instance hosts communities. Also, no point censoring the names since the modlog is public.
The censoring is also kinda readable underneath anyway, so it accomplished nothing even if the modlog wasn't public.
This isn't about AI - that's just an excuse.
What they really didn't want was a Tribble infestation, and well, given your username...you can see why they might want you to keep your distance...
Congrats