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    [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

    Fedora Immutable Desktop users when Arch and Debian users fight about whose system is more stable. (I use Fedora Kinoite btw)

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago

    I like it, its been my main system for the last 2 years. For my use case (software development & some gaming) it works very well.

    [–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I use Debian on my homelab servers (Ubuntu when I have to for some reason) and Ubuntu LTS on desktop. And more or less ignore everything else outside of as a curiosity.

    My main workhorse VM is Ubuntu LTS because when I set it up I just picked it instead of spending another week researching and trying different distros. I could look into swapping it out but nothing has annoyed me about it once I figured out to disable snaps.

    It feels like every time I finally have something set up and running I find some article telling me that what I chose is dumb for reason xyz and I really should be using something different, but refactoring at this point is a pita so why mess with something that isn’t broken?

    [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I don't know where my Linux journey takes me next yet, but I only half way agree with this post. Arch is not quite as bad as this post makes it out to be, but there's definitely always a bit of russian roulette involved in whether your system boots tomorrow or not (most of the time it does).
    I just had my EndeavourOS (which is just a thin layer on top of Arch) kill itself and some weird-ass hyperspecific flags in the initrd build process brought it back to life.
    Tho in the ~10 years of using arch now I'd say it was still preferable to the extremely stable experience, and I don't think recommending Debian Stable is such a good idea either.
    Yeah I could unfuck my EOS system with a bit of trickery, but once you get a good franken debian going, when that thing breaks there's no rescue.
    I've had some stuff on Arch break after an upgrade too because some config variable names changed. I rember when I had KDE with i3 going and one day the desktop was gone. Was just because the variable names in KDE had changed and a quick i3 config change was all that was needed.
    Having to selectively install packages from other sources because the main repo will keep you on a too outdated version for 6 months is just not a viable idea in today's world.

    There are luckily more than just these 2 options.

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    [–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    Every time I do a point release upgrade on Debian the whole system breaks. It's so smooth until that point, but if I have to reinstall the OS anyway then I'm going back to EndeavourOS (which is what I'm using now)

    [–] Linearity@piefed.zip 6 points 3 hours ago

    This was my experience with Linux Mint. I love stable distros n all but these OS updates are scary.

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    [–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

    Sadly that tells you something about the linux knowledge of the nixcraft guy.

    If he would've stopped at making fun with pacman -Syu, it would've been ok. You forgot a y and arch is not less usable than debian ..

    I'm on opensuse aeon btw, I don't interact with the OS anymore. It's just there and works, like atomic fedora, I don't care.

    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    It's been proved to me before that this guy (people?) Really have no idea what their talking about.

    They installed ubuntu one day and decided to make it their whole personality.

    [–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    And then there's Fedora in the corner, quietly getting the best of both worlds.

    [–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    OpenSUSE Tumbleweed..... my first love

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    Started with Tumbleweed. Got a little tired with the daily GBs of updates and slow zypper downloading everything piece meal. Settled to Fedora but if I had to switch again and Slowroll came out of beta I'd give it a good look.

    [–] esc@piefed.social 10 points 4 hours ago

    I've done 'real work' on computer with arch my whole professional career. I need a working computer with reasonably up to date programs not 3 to 10 years out of date because debian maintainers can't be bothered. On servers it's another story and there ~~i would prefer rhel any day~~ i would use debian.

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 hours ago

    Never had a system breaking update. Idk what arch people be using.

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

    Arch isn't just an operating system but a way of life.

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Linearity@piefed.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    Doesn’t SteamOS have a stable release model like Manjaro?

    [–] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

    manjaro is rolling release. ive had the same install on my desktop for 6 years.

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    [–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 hours ago

    I have my arch install on my home server running for over 10 years and update maybe once a month. It’s very stable.

    [–] erzerper@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

    fedora on main and debian on home server

    it just works

    [–] rozodru@piefed.world 5 points 4 hours ago

    If I need to spin up a VM on FreeBSD or on a Linux Distro I'll use Debian. it's a quick install and I know it'll work. that's it. that's all I use it for. I would never daily drive it.

    I don't use Arch anymore but when I did I would maybe run -Syu every 2 to 3 weeks or so when I got bored.

    I used to break my install quite often but it's been a while since I've done that

    [–] Brujones@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

    I mean, if you're worried about rolling release...

    pacman -S linux-lts linux-lts-headers

    My job is doing sales engineering for an open source DB company and just last week I encountered a prospect running on Arch.

    They also did backups to an external drive they kept in a safe.

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