Remember remember the 11th of September.... wait that doesn't sound right
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Why, what happened on the 9th of November?
I dunno, but remember, remember the fifth of November.
Disclaimer: am not American nor Western
I remember this day. Was a wee lad. We were on vacation. The TV was on and apparently it was the news. I don't remember if it's breaking news but it might not be, since we're 12 ish hours different time zones, and I remember seeing it at day time.
Well, back then I thought it was a movie...
And the eerie part was that my dad had just gotten back home from a business trip there just a few days before.
what i kinda don't get about this whole thing ... is that kinda, in other countries (look at the middle east), they get bombed daily and none of you bats an eye (well, some do, but still, this has been going on for 50 years and i hardly ever hear anyone talking about it). meanwhile you get one terrorist attack and everyone's supposed to lose their minds over this.
It's just so blown up because it hurt american pride.
I lost 14 colleagues and none of them were American. Was the response overblown? Yes. But it's called the "World" Trade center for a reason.
The US never gets attacked. There's an ally to the north, an ally to the south, and two big fucking oceans to the east and west. So, when it does happen, it's a pretty big deal.
People outside the US dont care or aren't expected to care about 9/11. Americans are loud and own the platforms so it seems like the entire world but its really just them treating the entire internet like an American fourm.
People in NZ still schzio out about a French terrorist attack that happened to us 40 years ago. I still see news bring it up.
racism i think. that time the "supreme race" got attacked
Control the media, control the mind.
It's not about the actual casualties and destruction, it's about how you can spin it into your favour.
American Democracy got suckered for over 20 years to put oligarchs in power.
I mean, it's a terrorist attack involving multiple simultaneous plane hijacks crashing into the center of one of the most populated cities in the world. Not that we should rank terrorism, but...
“Why’s it called 9/11 if it happened in September though?”
Because it happened on 2001-09-11 in the One True Date Format.
I’ve just barely survived a date format discussion and this is the first comment I read after. God dammit
It's named after their emergency number. Lots of people dialed 911 that day.
No, there used to be 9/11 buildings there. Don't know about the two missing ones. Two buildings were attackes. Now there's 7/11
Noo, you see, there where 11 buildings and after the 2 towers got taken down, there where now 9/11 buildings!
He is either not a US American, or the "Never Forget" nation forgot to properly teach him.
I live in one of those "never forget" nations that promised to never forget something... but it seems that we, too, managed to forget.
Hallöchen.
Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesn’t help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries. Lots of them basically teach history so they can be a coach instead. Because public schools don’t hire independent coaches, and require all of them to teach something. So the coaches tend to fall into teaching history, because it’s easier than learning to teach calculus or chemistry.
I quit my first real job on 9/11. I watched the buildings go down, walked into the deli I hated working at and said, "life is too short." Which for an 18 year old me was a pretty big move.
I had a job in Colorado at a small 20-30 person company, including two devout muslim immigrant men from Afghanistan. OMG, they were freaking the fuck out, thinking people were going to come drag them out of the office and murder them in the parking lot. Everybody had their back and tried to calm them down, but boy, they were so stressed out.
Americans went nuts after 9/11. It was weird how all of a sudden, it was ok to be openly racist. Up to then, I knew older people were racist, but were being shamed into keeping quiet and it was fading from younger generations, but 9/11 set all that back. They were right to be scared.
Had a French teacher in high school who was from Morocco, and Muslim. He had some pretty harrowing stories from the years following 9/11. Said the harassment started immediately that day, before he had even seen the news.
The most extreme of them involved him and his family being targeted at home with a drive-by shooting. Said some of the rounds missed his daughter by inches right where she was sleeping.
There were several different attacks, and attempted attacks, which varied in the level of violence, but all were random acts of opportunity during otherwise hum-drum quotidien activities, like grocery shopping and pumping gas. Literal IRL terrorism, but the perpetrators were always white so.. y'know.
He recounted the feeling of being hunted as urban prey by bat-guano crazy rednecks...chilling.
That vibe quieted down by the 2010s, but now it's come roaring back. MAGA is like three 9/11s in a trench coat.
Did he go to a Waldorf school? I heard that's a thing. Like they just collectively tried to keep kids from knowing about it.
What is that and what would even be the point of that
Edit: looked it up.
Many Waldorf schools have faced controversy due to Steiner's connections to racist ideology[7][8][9] and magical thinking.[discuss] Others have faced regulatory audits and closure due to concerns over substandard treatment of children with special educational needs.[10] Critics of Waldorf education point out the mystical nature of anthroposophy and the incorporation of Steiner's esoteric ideas into the curriculum.[11][12] Waldorf schools have also been linked to the outbreak of infectious diseases due to the vaccine hesitancy of many Waldorf parents.[13][14][15]
Actual lol. Magical thinking.
Go research Rudolf Steiner if you want to know more about "magical thinking". The dude was completely insane but somehow seemed charismatic enough to kick off several esoteric movements. He just made up the most insane shit about all kinds of fields: Agriculture, education, medicine to name some of the most popular ones. Steiner is one of the main reasons why esoteric thinking is so prevalent in today's Germany.
He could be 20 and not american.
I would like to offer some perspective to the Americans upset the world doesn't revolve around them. And share a terrorist act from my country, that I know you lot won't know about.
But most of you lot celebrate the party that did it so, maybe it won't land well.
Should we double check, and make sure he knows what Pearl Harbor was? And Hiroshima, and Nagasaki? And the Holocaust?
What? It's not unreasonable to say he may have missed some key moments in history.
I only learned of this one from Behind the Bastards
Edit to add
On 3 December 1984, over 500,000 people in the vicinity of the Union Carbide India Limited pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India, were exposed to the highly toxic gas methyl isocyanate, in what is considered the world's worst industrial disaster.[3] A government affidavit in 2006 stated that the leak caused approximately 558,125 injuries, including 38,478 temporary partial injuries and 3,900 severely and permanently disabling injuries.[4] Estimates vary on the death toll, with the official number of immediate deaths being 2,259.[5] Others estimate that 8,000 died within two weeks of the incident occurring, and another 8,000 or more died from gas-related diseases.[6] In 1989, Union Carbide Corporation (UCC) of the United States paid $470 million (equivalent to $1.03 billion in 2024) to settle litigation stemming from the disaster.[7]
