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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 hours ago

Jesus Christ, what happened to P2P? Just have the files in constant circulation through the world's computers. And 50TB, while a lot, isn't beyond the reach of a well-heeled private individual to host on a NAS.

[–] Cursed_Fig@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

read the article, you losers

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Rescission Layoffs AI and Pubmedia Rising Stars History of Public Broadcasting Timeline Nine PBS sues Iron Mountain over blocked access to archival data By Francisco RodriguezAugust 11, 2026

By Billy Hathorn - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0

Nine PBS in St. Louis filed a lawsuit against information management corporation Iron Mountain Data Centers July 28, seeking to recover over 50 terabytes of archival materials stored in one of the company’s Denver-based data centers.

The lawsuit filed in Denver District Court alleges that the station’s cloud-storage vendor, Open Source Storage, abruptly cut off access to Nine PBS’ data earlier this year without warning. It states OSS, which had a separate relationship with Iron Mountain to provide data storage, went “defunct,” leaving Nine PBS’ archives in a data center operated by Iron Mountain.

Iron Mountain has refused to return the materials to the station because its client, OSS, technically owned “the physical services housing the data” within Iron Mountain, according to the complaint.

The station requested temporary and preliminary relief that would prevent Iron Mountain from deleting, modifying or overwriting its materials in the suit. A district judge granted the motion and set a hearing for Wednesday.

In a statement to Current, Nine PBS VP and CCO Leah Freeman confirmed the station’s lawsuit against Iron Mountain and its dedication to retrieving the archival materials and programming, which she says span over “70 years of our organization’s history.”

“We are committed to ensuring we can recover and restore full access to this valuable content, which Nine PBS rightfully owns, as it holds significant historical importance for St. Louis.”

According to the lawsuit, the blocked materials include historical items such as Nine PBS’ coverage on the history of East St. Louis, the COVID-19 pandemic and the Great Flood of 1993, which ravaged along the Mississippi and Missouri rivers.

‘No choice but to file’ Nine PBS entered a relationship with a company described in the complaint as “OSS’ predecessor” in 2019. This unidentified vendor provided “hardware, software and cloud-storage services” for storing the public broadcaster’s archival materials and other data.

Nine PBS renewed its contracts with the data services vendor and subsequently OSS annually, the complaint states.

When Nine PBS attempted to schedule a meeting with OSS in February to discuss renewing for 2026, OSS didn’t respond or indicate “any intention not to renew the agreement.” The agreement was set to expire on March 6.

The contract provided 30 days for Nine PBS to retrieve its data from OSS’ storage “upon termination of services.” But on March 6, OSS cut off the station’s access without warning, according to the complaint. When Nine PBS attempted to contact OSS to sort out the problem, it discovered that OSS’ website was defunct and the company had delinquency status with the Colorado Secretary of State.

To ensure the station’s data remained secure, Nine PBS investigated further and discovered that OSS had a relationship with Iron Mountain, according to the complaint.

Nine PBS sent a demand letter March 13, demanding that Iron Mountain preserve and return its data and offering “to pay any reasonable costs associated with its demand.” Iron Mountain neither confirmed nor denied the data was in its possession, the lawsuit states.

Nine PBS filed a lawsuit against OSS and its “purported” president Charles Wells in the St. Louis Circuit Court April 16, the complaint states. The broadcaster later paused the litigation after James Tramel, a “managing partner of the group that officially acquired” OSS’ assets, confirmed that Nine PBS’ data was secure within Iron Mountain’s Denver data center.

After communicating with Nine PBS for about a month, Tramel stopped responding. Weeks later, an automatic reply email from his account stated that he was no longer affiliated with OSS. Tramel revealed in a subsequent phone call that he “had been defrauded” into purchasing OSS, according to the complaint. At this point, the company’s previous owners, including Wells, Ben Nicholson, and Justine Ririe, resumed control of OSS’ operations.

After Nine PBS attempted to contact OSS leadership without success, the station returned to the St. Louis Circuit Court and obtained a default judgment against OSS. The court’s ruling stated that the station both owned its data and had an “immediate right to possess the data,” according to the complaint. The judgment also ordered OSS to return the data to Nine PBS “and/or facilitate its transfer to a new vendor.”

An attorney representing Nine PBS contacted Iron Mountain about returning the data, and noted that “litigation was imminent in Colorado,” and the company admitted that it possessed the data, the complaint states. Iron Mountain initially indicated that it wanted to avoid litigation and comply with Nine PBS’ request, but later refused to do so, citing OSS’ ownership of the infrastructure that houses the data.

Nine PBS’ complaint states that, following multiple unsuccessful attempts to retrieve its digital property, it “had no choice but to file this lawsuit to force Iron Mountain to protect and ultimately provide” the data.

Iron Mountain did not respond to a request for comment.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 33 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

it sucks but they didn't follow the basic 3-2-1 rule of back-ups (3 copies, 2 types of media, 1 off-site)

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That’s smart, My last company did 4-3-2-1. When the servers went down all we had was 4 calling birds 3 French hens and 2 turtle doves.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

was your last employer a flock of seagulls?

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 1 points 3 hours ago

u said flock

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

so invest in friggin local storage, wtf

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 229 points 14 hours ago (24 children)

Piracy is media preservation

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I plead the fifth on that. But how come no backup on this. I am pretty sure they could got at least 50 people to get 1 tb hard drives so their data wouldn't go this route. And probably more since PBS shaped whole generations of kids and adults into better people.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

15x8TB drives gives you about 72TB in raidz2, for about £4k in disks, add a server for say £2k

So by not spending £6k they lost everything, they spent $19million on IT in 2025

Someone fucked up

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

A tiny PBS office in St Louis has a $19 million/year IT budget? I really doubt that.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 31 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

That's kind of how bankruptcy works. You can't give notice that you're going to be bankrupt. The moment you'd give notice of bankruptcy, everything would collapse anyway as lenders call in debts and customers cancel orders that are now in jeopardy.

Other statuses that exist are examinership (an outside appointee trying to save the company by any means) and receivership (probably the closest to what you'd like - the company is entrusted to a third party to try to pay its debts before it is wound up, usually trying to determine which debts to pay for the greater good, and which ones to default on).

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Aw, that's sad. I loved Mr. Rogers and Dragon Tales.

Fuck cloud storage.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They are still around. This specific incident happened to a local PBS broadcaster, and it is only the local programming that was lost. Still sad, though

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but relying on a shady outsourced cloud storage middleman provider was kind of a terrible decision

[–] JingoBingo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can blame the storage provider but ultimately it’s their fault. Anyone who takes archiving serious knows that you need at least 3 backups of your archive in different locations for cases like this.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

They should have made better decisions, but if they paid a middleman to outsource their storage to third company and the middleman goes out of business without having any terms with the storage provider regarding the data rights of their clients, then that sounds like somebody committed fraud and should face consequences

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 103 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

According to the article, the data is not clearly lost. It's that their provider, OSS, had a subcontract with Iron Mountain to host the data storage. When OSS abruptly went defunct, PBS had no direct legal path to access the data in Iron Mountain, and no assurance Iron Mountain would preserve it. It filed the lawsuit to make sure the data was preserved and affirm a legal basis to recover the data.

So the headline's use of "loses access" is accurate but a little misleading. That said, it is a great argument for reliable data preservation.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 30 points 13 hours ago

Iron Mountain is aware of the situation so ideally they've flagged it to avoid the bad press of deleting it.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

also why you should have local and remote backups both.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 11 hours ago

Gotta follow the 3-2-1 rule

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Well, yes, but consider that others using the OSS service may not have the resources of PBS to file suit and litigate the issue, and they may well lose their data forever.

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 11 points 10 hours ago

The whole company is sketchy

https://web.archive.org/web/20250318131517/https://www.osstorage.com/cloudPricing

There is nothing open source, their address is the iron mountain denver datacenter address

That page looks like it was directly ripped from https://wasabi.com/pricing, including the "Ball appliance" which appears to be a Wasabi-only product. This reeks of "I know a guy who does storage" and it's just a few open source products bolted to another storage API with upcharging and a corporate website

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This looks like this is isolated to KETC’s locally produced shows for Missouri. They appear to be a smaller affiliate and they don’t make a ton of stuff that contributes to national and international broadcasts.

Since they have a smaller audience I imagine it’s going to be harder for KETC to find community-created backups of their stuff.

I also imagine that if Missouri gave more of a shit about public broadcasting, this affiliate would be operating with better funded / more experienced IT staff. These little affiliates really rely on a lot of volunteers and green IT folks who do the work for the experience.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I do volunteer work for nonprofits. Its amazing that normal people think we are swimming in cash.... newsflash, we are not.

The IT budget is nothing so alot of what i do is setup open source stuff to meet needs...think libreoffice erc.

External storage for large backups is not on the table. And no one wants the reaponsibilty of shuffling external backup drives to and from.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And IT staff is often a lot of young folks who are building their resume and make really dumb rookie decisions. I was once that rookie.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

All the people in the thread dissing the station and suggesting all they needed is "X many Y terabyte drives for $2.50 each and give them to people to take off site and store and rotate somewhere and all this wouldn't be a drama"..... Those people have yet to discover that manual processes using fallible humans does not work long term.

The station's IT staff no doubt looked at all of this and decided that off-site backups via a third party was the simplest and most cost effective route. I have no doubt the middle-company advertised that all the actual storage was in Backblaze, a quite reputable storage company. The only thing that has bitten them in the ass is that the middle-company has folded unexpectedly, requiring them to scoot to court to get Backblaze to give them access to their data.

After all of this, it's quite possible that IT will now get enough resources to do the backup via Backblaze directly. If Backblaze wants to put a bit of PR spin on it, they'll task a few engineers to set this up for them. And if Backblaze was smart, they'd go looking for alllll the other little PBS affiliates in the same boat and offer them the same setup.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 57 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Redundancy would have made this a non issue. Even just local cold storage.

[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 46 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

50 TB isn't even that much space, certainly not for a broadcaster. No reason not to have a local copy. 50 PB, I could see a small PBS affiliate not having the resources to manage locally, but you can put 50 TB in consumer-grade NAS.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's less storage than my Plex storage. PBS could and should definitely do better.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

More specifically, this PBS affiliate (Nine PBS St Louis). It wasn’t PBS proper. This only impacted local programming archives. But that’s still a loss for the local community.

PBS likely does much better than this. Heck, a lot of their stuff is backed up in the Library of Congress.

[–] ignominous_wombat@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Either way, like under $2000 would have bought them the storage necessary to keep these backups on-site. They still would've needed another backup solution for redundancy purposes, but this wouldn't be the huge issue it seems to be now, where the data is sort of in limbo.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The cloud is just somebody else's computer.

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[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 28 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Someone just tell me that there are backups of most of this properly archived somewhere. Just tell me that, I'm not asking if it's true, I just need someone to say that.

[–] artifex@piefed.zip 40 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The data is all there, the vendor they were using to manage the storage just went OOB, and they’re not yet being allowed to retrieve it from the vendor’s storage vendor, Iron Mountain:

The lawsuit filed in Denver District Court alleges that the station’s cloud-storage vendor, Open Source Storage, abruptly cut off access to Nine PBS’ data earlier this year without warning. It states OSS, which had a separate relationship with Iron Mountain to provide data storage, went “defunct,” leaving Nine PBS’ archives in a data center operated by Iron Mountain.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Open Source Storage

Anyone heard of this company before? Their name is impossible to search for!

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