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Artist Jingna Zhang built Cara, a platform explicitly intended to protect artists from having their art stolen by AI...and yet these people just won't leave them well enough alone.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Mildly hot take:

It really points to these people just having really bad moral compasses.

In other words, these people are actually just bad people, as weird as that is to realize.

Like if you don't understand that what you're doing is wrong, that does not entirely excuse you from moral judgement of the rest of society; if you fundamentally disagree with the premise of something being good or bad with another person, it does follow that they're a bad person. Which then does mean that people doing shit like this are objectively bad people, doing objectively bad things.

Which brings back to question of how bad something needs to be for it to constitute being "evil". I'm not religious, but there's a certain level of how something bad impacts others, intent, and context, that I believe most people would classify as evil. Not demons and hell and that nonsense, but effectively something worth crusading against and being extremely hostile towards. Something that threatens life and peace, and of a certain scale, I would call "evil".

So these bad people doing stuff like this, with the intent of stealing on a massive scale, directly against the autonomy and will of artists... Not exactly evil, at first.. but if it results in actual harm, and if that harm is intended... that, I would define as an act of evil.

So yeah, just a topic or perspective I think worth discussing. We all know something's really wrong right now in society, and I think there's a level of even language and ethics that hasn't caught up or isn't in full view. I also realize the dangers of proposing this and it being a slippery slope to what it may even advocate. That being said, again, I think it's a perspective worth entertaining at least from a philosophical perspective and discussion.

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[–] async_amuro@lemmy.zip 76 points 2 days ago
[–] Dojan@pawb.social 69 points 2 days ago

And AI bros think they’re okay. Fucking disgusting.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But, isn’t this just a demonstration that Cara isn’t doing what it’s built for? If one person, who is honest about what they did, is able to scrape all the art for $10, wouldn’t the major AI companies also be able to scrape it?

And not only would they not be honest about it, it seemed like this went completely unnoticed by Cara.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They claim they may have a way to remove Glaze and Nightshade, two of the tools protecting images hosted on Cara from being used as training data. Which means right now they don’t have a way to remove it, which means Cara is still working, which I’m not implying is going to forever be true nor am I particularly informed; I just read the whole post.

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[–] halvar@lemy.lol 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wanted to verify this. It was real but has been since removed and judging from the missing comments by the moderators nonetheless, so that's a W. Then I looked through this community and here are some neat experiences I had:

  • One post's subject was a goober on social media saying "cannibalism is more justified than ai art". I looked through all the comments - none of them even entertained the possibility of this being a joke.

  • In fact it is very often that they just post some stupid anti-ai screenshot where the original post had like two impressions and title it the ai equivalent of 'they are coming for our guns!'

  • I sorted by Top/Year. First post was a random drawing someone made with their hand and said "i'm not good at prompting so I drew this with my hand". My flabers have been gasted.

  • It's pretty weird because it's like looking in a mirror in a way: their arguments are exactly the same as I thought they were* - and the way they are posting about us is sadly pretty similar to the way we are posting about them. This post included.

*And yeah, I think those arguments are terrible, but for some reason they don't and that weirds me out how when presented with the same arguments people can just go in completely different directions.

So this was my shallow dive into a community that shall not be named on a platform that shall not be named. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CN: indirect mentions of transphobia

It's always super interesting to see the way that people talk in an ideologically oriented subreddit such as this (though less so nowadays due to bots)

!One of the most interesting examples of this was back before the transphobia subreddit GenderCritical got banned. When I first heard of the sub, from it's name, I thought that it would be like the exact opposite of what it actually is, like people who were critical of the entire construct of gender. Alas, it was a cess pool of hate. What I found super interesting though was that they did regular "Just no trans" threads, where they would ask people what their "just no trans" moment was. It was honestly absurd how many of the stories in these threads took the form of "I was abused by a cis man, and then struggled to get any justice against him because patriarchy often excuses these kinds of acts. Anyway, that's why I hate trans women". It made me realise how many of the people who identify as TERFs specifically are just traumatised women who feel so disempowered under the patriarchy that they feel comforted by the power they get from punching down at trans people. It's fucking tragic, because our best strategy against systemic oppression is always intersectional solidarity, and when it comes to feminism specifically, trans people are situated uniquely well to be able to strengthen the cause.!<

You can learn a lot about people from how they speak when they're amongst their own

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

this is exactly why dr. doofenshmirtz and professor farnsworth should have collaborated to invent the "slap poster in the face over the internet button"

shame is dead for the most part in pseudonymous spaces but people would be a lot more considerate if there were some actual consequences

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] dezand@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This isn't just about scraping the images, it's about sending the message

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

That he's a modern script kiddie.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 41 points 2 days ago

Greed and online superiority override shame now. These people are entitled and proud of what they do.

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well I was gonna go tell them to off themselves in a plethora of colorful ways on reddit, but it seems their account was banned lol.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

oh thank god, reddit is now a little better place

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbh, that was bound to happen. At least the author is stupid enough to come forward and get in the prime spot for cyber bullying

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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What's special about my art is that I can make it, and I will make more. Most of it ends up being recycled anyway. Calligraphy is a silly art.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Weird that shitheads like this aren't getting banned from reddit, don't you think? Mention punching nazis, though...

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[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago
[–] vathecka@lemmy.radio 11 points 2 days ago

" I may soon have a way to remove nightshade" lol good luck with that

[–] shani66@ani.social 15 points 2 days ago

Absolute piece of shit

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