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[–] Phantom_Feline17@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 minutes ago

But the Average joe using plastic straws is the real reason for climate change. /s

If there was money to be made from solving climate change, it would've been solved yesterday.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 29 minutes ago

Bring back filing cabinets and stationary. This has all gone too far.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 47 minutes ago

What a great title

[–] Octavio@piefed.social 14 points 2 hours ago

If AI is so wonderful they could afford to put up solar panels to power the data centers.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 87 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Billionaires trying to kill the rest of us faster.

[–] Ascense@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder where we could be if all the AI money was spent on e.g. fusion energy research instead.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 11 points 1 hour ago

I guess we would be 30 years from stable scalable fusion reactions?

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

I’ve been cynical about them for years but there’s been enough interesting milestones crossed lately that I wonder if an injection of AI money wouldn’t just do the trick.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

They don't realise that it's gonna be their own funeral, too. Sure, Elmo and Bebos will most likely die of old age (or drug abuse) in a few decades but many of those cunts are under 30, and they absolutely will have to deal with the apocalyptic consequences of their actions.

And it's not just them at this point; thousands of politicians and property developers are in it as well. I don't think most of them are trying to do harm, they're just blinded by greed.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

maybe they are bitter because they cant live forever and want to take us out. Make as much money out of us as they can, live lavish life and leave everything in ruins after they are done. If we let them, we deserve it. But i dont think we should let them.

Anyone that can should do at least some act of resistance, even if it feels meaningless. Throwing a fucking rock at datacenter physically affects nothing, but symbolically it has value. Imagine 100 people throwin a rock at datacenter, while still likely doenst do anything it would be big message to everyone else. Though it would likely also result in getting into trouble, so everyone should also do some risk evaluation what they can get away with. But simple graffitti could also be effective or even just plain speaking your mind loudly about things.

And most importantly, what the enemy fears most is our unity. So everyone should definitely do everything they can to improve that. Together we stand, separated we die.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

But i dont think we should let them.

Honestly, I don't think we can really stop them. The only people they have to answer to are politicians/government officials and those can be bribed. Sure, we can protest data centres and stuff but even if we're victorious in stopping one from getting built in place a, there's always a place b.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

They know that things are going to be shit. They just wasn't the nicest yacht to live on when it does.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (2 children)

I think if they could fully comprehend what was happening right now, they wouldn't do it.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 1 points 23 minutes ago

It's a hydra though. If a capitalist leader/billionaire/oil super power abdicates, all available capitalists swarm to fill the vacancy and rake in the power and profits that were given up.

They don't care the world is ending due to their greed and corruption, they just want to be rich and powerful.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 points 32 minutes ago

I don't think that's true.

I think they know the future is bleak, and they just want to have the best bio dome or whatever the case may be.

As in, they know they're making things worse, but if they don't do it someone else will. So in a bleak and shit future, do you want to live like a king, or choke to death like the rest of us.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 3 hours ago

Too used to money insulating from reality.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when Elon was all about "transitioning the world to sustainable transportation"? LOL

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world -5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

He was never about that.

He said he was, but actions speak louder and if he ever was he'd be promoting Hydrogen-electric with a Hydrogen ICE transition* instead of battery electric which isn't sustainable and is environmentally disastrous in its own way.

*Diesel ICE can be converted to Hydrogen ICE (note: they still need ~5-10% diesel, so it's not a forever technology) - https://www.unsw.edu.au/engineering/research-technology/is/converting-diesel-engines-to-run-on-hydrogen

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

My diesel car has run on B100 (100% biodiesel) just fine for years. That's already good enough and requires no new technology or infrastructure. Hydrogen is stupid as hell.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

Give it up. Hydrogen is not happening. Batteries have won. Now we need to move to more sustainable chemistries.

Oh, and yeah, Elon was always just posing.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 3 hours ago

Found the Toyota rep

[–] inari@piefed.zip 19 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

They don't want us dead, they want us making money for them

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 1 points 52 minutes ago

Not really. They are actively trying to circumvent consumers as a step to making money. That is what the entire AI-circlejerk bubble is about.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

That's funny because I would prefer them dead and I bet there are more who think like me than there are who think like them. Maybe they should start getting frightened. I'm not saying we should kill them, but I wouldn't bat an eye if they just dropped dead. And I bet not much would be lost for humanity after we sat down and made a plan how to redistribute their wealth and equity.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 17 points 4 hours ago

They'd really love it if we could be dead and making money for them. They live in hope!

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

They just want us to make money. They don't give a fuck if you die.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago

Yes, but they also don't care if the grand majority of us are dead.

They have what they need.

That's why most have bunkers.

Fuckerbergs is in Hawaii.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

"Futurism" hits like a religious word now that you need a blind faith that's contrary to logic to believe there's a future for us at all.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

And when the AI bubbles bursts and the memory is spent it’s all going to be e-waste

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're kidding yourself. They're going to be bailed out by our fascist oligarchies, with contracts to use the data centers for totalitarian mass surveillance "to protect our freedom and national security".

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 57 minutes ago (2 children)

Except the bailout at this point is more money than exists, you'd have to print so much money as to cause instant hyper inflation and cause an even worse economic crash that would take AI with it anyway.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 3 points 34 minutes ago

The data centers will be deemed more necessary to keep track of all the possible dissidents caused by the hyper inflation

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 29 minutes ago

For a while, I thought their end-game was simply to get "too big to fail" before the bubble burst and get that bailout. But you are right - they either overshot or have some other idea in mind because now they are too big to bailout.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Hey, at least we'll be able to make one last upgrade before we die.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Oh my sweet summer child…

[–] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 0 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

Yep. Also look at animal agriculture which we also do not need and is a huuuuuge amount crueller and orders of magnitude more polluting. Get rid of both and we’d be like a quarter of the way to fixing our emissions

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 9 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (1 children)

AI datacenters are 3-4 orders of magnitude more polluting than agriculture comparatively. There’s just currently more agriculture than datacenters, which is something these AI companies would like to change

[–] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net -2 points 17 minutes ago

Get rid of both like I said, it’s not like we’re fighting for one to have the right to ruin our world over the other.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago

Wait till you see what the US military does!

[–] remon@ani.social -5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

That is fundamentally a problem with using polluting power sources, not AI. AI is just wasting huge amounts of power, but that wouldn't nearly be as big of a problem with clean power sources.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 6 points 1 hour ago

Sure but if we are building out renewable capability as quick as we can, but it's being outstripped by demand, then maybe demand is part of the problem.

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 17 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I heard this before:

That is fundamentally a problem with using polluting power sources, not Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just wasting huge amounts of power, but that wouldn't nearly be as big of a problem with clean power sources.

I am 100% sure big oil is heavily invested in pushing AI data centers.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 24 minutes ago

Case in point: Alberta. As a landlocked province, they have been struggling to get oil and gas to markets, being limited by the pipelines other provinces or the US is willing to build. Now, the vast, vast majority of the planned ai datacentres in Canada are in Alberta, with insane sweetheart deals from government.

They found a way to get paid to burn gas within their borders and are going whole hog.

[–] remon@ani.social 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Feels more like the fossil fuel industry would be quite happy with people pointing fingers at AI for the more fundamental problem they are causing.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

They are the same. AI companies are using excess energy powered by fossil fuels for no reason at all. We don't need it. If they were using renewable energy then they would be taking renewable energy from projects that are much more important for our daily survival.

All energy consumed by AI is energy we could have spend for something actual useful. That they are using fossil fuels just underlines what a mountain of "fuck you" to humanity the entire AI project is. It exists solely to provide more billions for billionaires and no other reason.

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 24 seconds ago)

If they were using renewable energy then they would be taking renewable energy from projects that are much more important for our daily survival.

Exactly ... the problem with AI is that it's "wasting energy".

Then there is another problem, which is that a lot of our energy comes from sources that cause pollution.

They are not the same. Just related.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago

This is MAGA levels of bad take lol