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The country needs to find a “compromise” between privacy and safety, according to Flock Safety CEO Garrett Langley.

“When people talk about just one of these, privacy or safety, they’re prioritizing the wrong thing, and what we have to prioritize as a country is compromise,” Langley said during a recent interview with Fox News. “How do we have our safety, and how do we balance privacy?”

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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I think one of the problems that encompasses the flock debate besides the privacy issues is the relationship that the police have with people in the United States. Most police view people as a threat and if you look at the police training they teach them to be extremely violent. During simple traffic stops most police are on edge and have an attitude like they might be violent with you. I'm just talking about the general atmosphere- I'm not even getting into all of the examples where police have killed people for no reason, falsified information to arrest innocent people, and generally abused their power.

Did police want to wear body cams or did they want to continue without accountability? Police have a responsibility and have taken an oath. They should be required to have cameras.

In a society where all of its parts work together towards the same goal, ALPRs would not be a problem. In the US this surveillance is very worrisome.

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[–] andyburke@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago

Hey buddy, you didn't ask us about shit before you started installing your creepy cameras to monitor us everywhere, so you can go ahead and fuck off now.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 21 points 1 month ago
[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I do not want Flock cameras surveiling me or my car where it will inevitably become data that's combined with a million other data points on me that might be able to determine what I'm doing, what I'm thinking, and what I might do in the future, just to be able to say we're "safer".

[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

It falls in the "no entry without warrant" argument for me. If you need to surviel me, show me a warrant.

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[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Ben Franklin

In other words: Fuck you, Flock.

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

How about we don't duplicate George Orwells 1984 irl?

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What the US should prioritize is opportunity, education, corporate regulation, housing affordability, justice and dealing with corruption.

Gee, then they wouldn't need the surveillance state.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 18 points 1 month ago

You don't negotiate with terrorists, Nazis, or billionaires.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I agree

And the compromise no cameras, more privacy

[–] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These concerns aren’t just hypothetical. The Washington Post recently identified 46 cases where police officers have been accused of using Flock technology for unauthorized purposes, including to stalk their wives, girlfriends, or exes.

After listening to an interview with one of the alleged victims, Langley told CBS News, “I apologize. It kills me that she went through that.” At the same time, he insisted, “I don’t think that Flock created police abuse. I think we’re the first company to ever shine a light on it and build the tools to find it.”

Oh fuck off. You don't get to call yourself a hero for making a problem worse.

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Compromise: kill yourself

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

What compromise? Where's your warrant to search our lives, our comings and goings? Rich people don't have to deal with this harassment.

[–] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No compromises with fascists.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

The compromise is we let you take your cameras down instead of drawing and quartering you.

What the fuck kind of compromise? "Let us technical loophole around your constitutional rights just a little bit?"

How about we compromise and let that guy in Tennessee hang you just a little bit.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Funny. I don't know why but my brain keep reading the title as: "Fuck CEO".

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[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Ok. You spend the rest of your life in jail, and your immediate and extended family can live.

They won't be rich. They will be held accountable if they broke the law as well.

Or we can exterminate 50-100k people to give justice to billions.

Either option is acceptable to me.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 1 month ago

Correct, "safety" compromises our privacy. Now you're getting it, captain shithead CEO! So with that in mind, there is no way we can accept these cameras.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Here's the compromise: Take down the cameras and people won't guillotine you.

Here's a compromise: how about you fuck off?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago

“How do we have our safety, and how do we balance privacy?”

Spoken like a true sales/con artist. I can almost hear the brand guidelines poking through... Always mention safety before privacy, always treat safety as a given and privacy as the buffer zone in which to find compromise.

The compromise is how far each town chooses to go above security tier 0: emergencies with immediate threat to life or property.

  • tier 0 is defined as covering 100% of law enforcement requests of all agencies with jurisdiction in the covered area.
[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s afraid

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

The rich will never feel save while we, their victims, have privacy.

They know better than even we do how much reason we have to be plotting against them.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Nah.

No compromise with our rights being infringed upon.

Destroy them all.

[–] bibbasa@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago

the compromise is for you to put flock cameras in every room in your house.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree. Our starting position is all flock cameras should be taken down and then shoved up Garrett Langley's ass. Every single one of them.

Now let us come to the table and find a compromise.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

Ole Ben Franklin is particularly relevant here:

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

In other words, Flock can go fuck themselves with a stiff wire brush.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

I'm amazed at how their concern for our safety allows them to do all sorts of heinous shit for ~~profit~~ our safety.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Safety? They constantly put innocent victims at risk by misidentifying them as the criminals!!!

Odd description of 'safety'

[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

We don't need to find shit. They need to go away before their heads start to resemble their cut down cameras.

Tired of this.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Need to expand from pulling down camera to pulling down Flock buildings, manufacturing sites, etc.

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[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Asked and answered.

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