If that's the game we're gonna play:
yay
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2026
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I'm old enough to
yum
RIP in peace yellow dog linux
Yum was used on way more than Yellow Dog Linux. CentOS, Fedora, RHEL, etc all did
I was annoyed when i discovered cachyos used paru.
I understand defaulting to prompting a code review is a good idea, especially now, but i was very used to typing yay (yes I installed yay instead of making an alias)
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I'll keep making Debian users aware that they can do it all in one command since Trixie.
sudo apt --update --autoremove --with-new-pkgs upgrade
First they changed apt-get to apt. Now this.
I canβt keep up with all the sudden changes.
Ok now that's pretty good. Can we use this with dist-upgrade/full-upgrade?
Yes, it's a command from apt-get that apt only passes through:
--auto-remove, --autoremove
If the command is either install or remove, then this option acts like running the autoremove command, removing unused dependency packages. Configuration Item: APT::Get::AutomaticRemove.
--with-new-pkgs
Allow installing new packages when used in conjunction with upgrade. This is useful if the update of an installed package requires new dependencies to be installed. Instead of holding the package back upgrade will upgrade the package and install the new dependencies. Note that upgrade with this option will never remove packages, only allow adding new ones. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Upgrade-Allow-New.
-U, --update
Run the update command before the specified command. This is supported for commands installing, removing, or upgrading packages such as install, remove, safe-upgrade, full-upgrade. This can be useful to ensure a command always installs the latest versions, or, in combination with the --snapshot option to make sure the snapshot is present when install is being run.
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Yes. At the beginning I preferred distro's specifically with a graphical software manager. Now i force uninstall it and use terminal for anything.
My first Ubuntu (8), the software manager was so buggy, that I rage quit and learned about the terminal
The only time I use the software center is if im looking for software to do a job without already knowing the name of the program that would
With Arch, if you have the Yay manager, you can do βyay β and itβll search not just the names of packages but the descriptions too. Iβm sure thereβs equivalents for other distros, and even with pacman itself
There's apt-cache search, but I just prefer doing it with the package manager tbh :p
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There is nothing wrong with using your distro's app center. Often it will save you extra steps by updating things like Flatpaks as well, if you use them (or Snaps, if you're an insane person).
Flatpaks and snaps are two examples of deliverables with terribad integration and low SLSA scores. They should be considered toxic.
Snaps I agree just because there is no open source snap store and itβs impossible to set up a 3rd party store.
Flatpaks though? They let people install packages with weird / rare / not available requirements on any distro. All open source with a really nice sandbox. I think flatpaks are great.
Let's look at the alternatives:
- System packages: not viable for the majority of packages because the distro devs don't have time to manually package everything
- AppImage: even worse integration (like no desktop shortcuts on install). Developer has to guess what libraries need to be included and which ones are already installed by the user. No sandboxing. Probably worse SLSA scores.
- AUR: even worse security. No sandboxing. Packages are often compromised by hackers.
At least AppImages don't have dependency on SystemD totally hardcoded.
That's a huge win.
Immutable Linux users didn't like that
I also like graphical frontends because there I can see screenshots of the software, because there's a lot of software out there with really bad UI and UX.
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I do both. If I know exactly what I want to install, I'll install it from the terminal because it's often more direct. If I go "I need an app that does thing, what's available?"
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yay
When I just want to go to bed and deal with the repercussions of my actions in the morning:
yay --noconfirm && reboot
Aren't you supposed to do apt full-upgrade instead of apt upgrade?
Also wtf is pkcon for?
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I actually like Mint's software center
Same. It really makes finding shit easy
> update
(it's an alias)
I love it when a program says theirs a new version, would you like to download? pffffftt.
pacman -S [program name]
sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake path
(Or just my nswitch [path] script with a file-backed path cache)
While I still tend to stick to the terminal for updating, I still have fond memories of doing everything through Synaptic Package Manager when I first got into Ubuntu in 2009.
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Sudo dnf up
Downright quicker than opening a software center.
And it gives me the illusion of being some sort of super user
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