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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Some of a bitch!

Just a few days ago, I argued with a douche nozzle who told me, with the confidence of a master debater, that AI has no useful purpose.

But apparently, not all of you feel that way. Linus uses AI and suddenly y’all change your tune! What a load of crap!

I’ve been sitting here saying for years that AI is a tool and should be used as such, while getting called a tech-bro simp for saying it.

Man, this has once again revealed the massive, two-faced, bandwagon nature of Lemmy.

Y’all should have stayed on Reddit!

[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Using AI is not the same as vibe coding.

Asking AI to write a piece of code and then read it, understand and use, is a very reasonable use case.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

I wonder how long before he gets comfy relying on it and something really shitty slips in.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 3 points 44 minutes ago

Yeah, and Torvalds using generative AI to write code is not the same as Bobby LinkedIn telling us he's coding his third app this week.

[–] Moztako@lemmus.org 4 points 2 hours ago

It’s interesting to see AI being used for something as practical as debugging a Linux issue. I think the bigger question is how much developers can rely on AI without losing their understanding of the underlying code. AI can clearly speed things up, but human review still seems essential.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

People are forgetting the AI hype train is reliant on the fact that businesses and individuals can't host the AI themselves, which is rapidly changing.

All that insane power that OpenAI and Anthropic have harnessed is suddenly completely useless when you can just spin up a competing model at home, with HF hosting a crap ton of finetuned models like uncensored/abliterated to do whatever you want with it.

Even Deepseek released their full size models if you happen to have 400Gb (or 1.5Tb) of VRAM lying around.

When the bubble (hopefully) pops, AI will just continue to be a tool that devs use where applicable, and likely not on a massive data center cloud as it migrates into consumer electronics.

[–] drath@lemmy.drath.ru 3 points 1 hour ago

AI hype train is reliant on the fact that businesses and individuals can’t host the AI themselves

This is, like, one of a dozen major problems with LLM's.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

I think this is a much more sensible attitude than the pitchfork wavers declaring mandatory zero-tolerance or you're evil.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So this is how I hear about the outcome of the Debian vote. :( Is there a widespread distro that has a clear anti-Sloo stance?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Hyperbola definetely.
I believe gentoo is too.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago (8 children)

People who are vehemently against any form of AI will be left behind. That may be difficult to hear, and even more difficult to accept, but that is the cold, hard, truth.

Its a tool, and just like any tool it has uses. It can be used inappropriately, and it's valid to criticize those instances. But if you are plugging your ears and going "Lalala!" when people talk about actual valid use cases, or stubbornly pretending that it has none, you will be left behind.

You will be like office employees from the 80's and 90's who refused to use a computer and then suddenly found themselves without a job. It's your choice if you use it or not. It's also every company's choice to not hire you because of your unwillingness to adapt.

If you haven't learned it yet, this is your warning and your wake-up call: Learn how to use AI now, or find a different career. It's not going away, no matter how much you may bitch and moan. There will soon be two classes of people, those who learned how to use this emerging technology, and those who refused. Things will be much harder for that second group.

I don't say this to be snarky or smug. I hate AI myself, but I also recognize how fucking stupid I'd have to be to refuse to use it. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's also the truth.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 3 points 28 minutes ago

People who are vehemently against any form of blockchain technology will be left behind. That may be difficult to hear, and even more difficult to accept, but that is the cold, hard, truth. Blockchain is a tool, and just like any tool it has uses. It can be used inappropriately, and it's valid to criticize those instances. But if you are plugging your ears and going "Lalala!" when people talk about actual valid use cases, or stubbornly pretending that blockchain has none, **you will be left behind**. You will be like office employees from the 80's and 90's who refused to use a computer and then suddenly found themselves without a job. It's your choice if you use blockchain or not. It's also every company's choice to not hire you because of your unwillingness to adapt. If you haven't learned it yet, this is your warning and your wake-up call: Learn how to use blockchain now, or find a different career. It's not going away, no matter how much you may *removed* and moan. There will soon be two classes of people, those who learned how to use this emerging technology, and those who refused. Things will be much harder for that second group. I don't say this to be snarky or smug. I hate blockchain myself, but I also recognize how fucking stupid I'd have to be to refuse to use it. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but it's also the truth.

Ah, there we go, I knew your rhetoric sounded familiar!

Seriously though, what "skills" are you building by learning how to use LLMs at your corporate job? How to tell a chatbot to do a task for you?

Sure, if you're trying to build a local LLM server from scratch, tune a minimalist harness with a RAG and custom skills, optimize context compaction and concurrent token throughput, and integrate all that into existing automation pipelines, that takes some technical skill. But that's a tiny fraction of people in the corporate world that need to do anything like that.

I could teach vast majority of corporate workers everything they will ever need to know about using "AI" in a half hour Lunch-N-Learn. There is no skill involved in asking a chatbot to move all your emails about "Project ABC" into a new Outlook folder called, "Project ABC" or asking a chatbot to, "draft a department memo about the new parking policy found in the HR SharePoint site."

It's not the next industrial revolution, it's not the beginning of the Singularity, it's not the dawn of a new age of our species. It is merely the latest hype-cycle of Capitalism that exists to siphon wealth from the population up to a handful of ultra wealthy billionaires and megacorps, and artificially prop up a dying economy just a little longer. And long term, we will discover the same thing about LLM use as we are finding out now about electronics in school and the mass proliferation of smart phones: That it stunts people's critical reasoning, reading comprehension, self-image, and social confidence.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

This falls apart the second you look at it when you see that it doesn't take much learning to use that tool for most applications.

At the same time, people overly reliant on that tool take a big hit in developing and strengthening their own skilks and thinking capabilities.

Combine the two things if you still can.

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

Agreed, although simply using LLMs to do your thinking for you is only going to decrease your value in the workplace and make you more replaceable. The goal needs to be learning how to use AI to expand your thinking, counteract your biases, improve the quality of your work, and accelerate your learning.

[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

I don't know if you noticed you contradicted yourself there. Letting ai do your thinking decreasing your value and then, talking about using ai to replace your thinking.

Ai is causing psychosis because people are trying to use it to replace thinking. If you don't use it you lose it, literally especially with your brain. You have to know how to produce those skills from within or you don't have those skills and then you are worthless in any workplace, but more importantly to yourself. You have to be meta to the aim being the TV show, and control it from a place of checks and balances (us performing those checks and balances of ai) handing over the reigns of higher thinking to a machine designed to be a yes man, is not ever a pathway to expanding your thinking or even learning to use ai, that's just sitting on a couch till you lose critical muscle mass, but it's your brain. (No shame to sitting on a couch or losing muscle mass, I'm just trying to explain it in relative terms)

Currently there is no way to use ai without causing ai hallucinations, because there isn't a model readily available that runs as a tool, there are only models that run as a manipulative tool that provoke said replacement of your thinking, I can not assume that's an accident. Seeing the usual levels of evil that come from the companies pushing this hard, tells me this is just as evil, if not the most evil thing they've done, measured against all the things they're openly flouting, copyright law, openly burning rare literature for a monopoly, burning the already past tipping point climate, burning computer ownership and accessibility, I could go on. Theres very open bribery and flouting of social rules laws and common moralities, they're desperate to cause this monster they've created out of ai, to attach like the symbiot in aliens that I forget the name of because I'm pre first coffee and my brain just be like that.

I am anti ai, as it currently stands. The current versions need to be left to die in silence and hatred and rejection we are all collectively currently showing. Only because it has been made into a Frankensteins monster, by the people responsible who have infinite money to pay judges to rule their way and have zero morals, nay a deficit of morals.

Ai will survive the ai bubble, because the ai bubble is the unsustainable practices of the billionaires and the manipulative interface designed to lessen your critical thinking skills.

But the ai that survives the bubble will and should be so highly regulated (it's currently the opposite) and used as a tool, not a replacement for critical thinking, it can never do that. But there are so many things it can do to better humanity, none of which are currently being used.

We have to wait this one out. We're not missing any boat.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Like anything else, using the tool properly requires skill and care.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

agreed

the issue I have with how people use it is that it's easy to just create more shit that they spew out into the world

I've got no issue with people using tools to improve their work. I think it's fair to say that AI is enough like predictive text and spell check when it comes to tools you can use at work. and like any tool, the user is still responsible for the end result

my main problem with AI is that it is absolutely fucking our world (environmentally and economically) to create pure garbage that is thrown in my face every day. like, scale it back a bit everyone...

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