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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Big Autos is bribing Congress to kill anything they deem as competition.

-Ftfy

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly. If you look at videos of what Chinese EVs are like. There's no competition to them now.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Oh, China recently took the top speed record from Bugatti in an EV even, with the Yangwang U9 Extreme outsprinting the Chiron SS 300+ last year, so gas cars don't even have the top speed card to play anymore. EVs are more efficient than gas cars, are at least theoretically cheaper to maintain, and now they're officially faster too.

These guys ain't playing.

Something tells me the hypercar makers are gonna hit an upper limit in how fast they can go before catastrophic failures occur due to physics intervening though; you can bend physics, as Koenigsegg and Bugatti have proven in practice for 20+ years, constantly pushing the envelope for how fast you can go in a land vehicle and setting a new top speed record every time, but you can't break physics; at some point it's gonna snap back and that's when bad things can happen, and that'll be the physical upper limit for how fast you can go in a land vehicle.

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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know, all the reasons I didn't want a Chinese car are now also present in American cars...

We need to start raiding junkyards for old cars, and working on making electric conversions without corporate cloud connections and integrated spyware more accessible.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or, and hear me out on this, push our useless elected officials to fucking do something for the people instead of the highest bidder.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Hahaha, good one! Guards! Seize this impudent peasant and whip him to the bone!

[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're all bought, pushing them only gets pointless promises during campaigns that will be ignored as soon as they get your vote.

Whether it's a pedophile MAGAt, or that piece of shit Jeffries, they're all a joke...

And it's not funny.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Lol, when you know, you know.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 80 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

It makes sense. The investment in and development of EVs and EV manufacturing has been fully kneecapped by the American auto and oil industries.

If China came in, the American auto industry would be destroyed overnight due to the lack of competitive vehicles.

The propaganda of "Chinese vehicles are cheap and dangerous" only works when people don't have the product in front of them.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-jim-farley-xiaomi-tesla-chinese-ev-2026-4?op=1

[–] urno@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in a country with Chinese vehicles, and I would say that they were, initially, a bit crappy, a little less technically safe but cheaper.

Now though they’re pretty much even, especially BYD.

This is the confident opinion of one who has never owned a Chinese vehicle!

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The propaganda of “Chinese vehicles are cheap and dangerous” only works when people don’t have the product in front of them.

Plus they'd have to pass whatever requirements in the US to be sold, the same ones that the 'domestic' manufacturers do.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As they sell them in Europe we can be sure that that meet the more stringent European standards too. The idea that Chinese vehicles are all crap has passed its use by date.

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this even a concern anymore? Haven't we pretty much gutted any requirements that would actually matter / wouldn't already exist in Chinese cars?

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There are some American safety requirements that are based on protecting the safety of the driver at the expense of everything else that cheaper vehicles might not meet.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i have a BYD at home in Australia, i charge it 90% of the time off the solar panels on my roof. I travel SE Asia a fair bit (and work remotely) I am astounded by the number of Chinese EVs in Phnom Penh (I'm currently in Cambodia) as well as quite a few Mazda EVs (sedan and SUV) which i think are made in China anyway. So many brands, actually competitive :) I have seen one Toyota EV and lots and lots of used Prius.

Another thing is so many Bentley's and Lamborghinis.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

[China's auto industry has] grown from holding 16 percent of global market share to 25 percent—with automotive analysts predicting that this value could reach one-third by 2030.

I would imagine that global market share would explode if they were allowed access to the American market. Especially with oil prices being what they are.

https://itif.org/publications/2026/04/20/explaining-the-relative-competitive-decline-of-americas-automotive-industry/

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The captive market at work.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I paid a 15% baked in tariff on my non us manufactured electric car. Worth every penny.

GM has never made a good car. Ford forgot they are a car company. Fuck em all.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

chicken tax 2.0

you will buy your 90% markup unrepairable slop cars and learn to like it

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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Fuck them. The car company middleman is noting good for the consumer. The relationship should be directly with the product wherever possible. They have a vested interest in your investment not bein a lemon. Them being able to blame bad service through a third party is a nice for name and shaming random problems.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

US can ban Chinese cars from the US market. But all other markets are still lost.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US is trying to get other economies to keep rules against Chinese EVs as well.

The Chinese are dumping EVs, but the cars are better value than any American/European option - often just straight up better. Tue only reason I have avoided buying one is lack of confidence in the long term stability of the manufacturers; that s evej considering that import duties where I live put them in the same price category as regionally manufactured models.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I waited quite a while before buying an EV. The wife wanted a Tesla but I couldn’t stomach buying from Musk so we have a Chinese one. Cheaper so it wasn’t that much of an investment and comparable to most non EV alternatives.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn’t it just that when the Chinese recognised that they needed to dominate and innovate in the car market all the other manufacturers doubled down on doing business as usual? That the Chinese have a dynamic, robotic car industry with a 1 billion person market is really going to make it difficult to compete.

The Chinese market isn’t perfect by a long stretch as they don’t respond to market signals very well hence the over supply of ICE vehicles because their population has gone EV. That means they have a lot of ICE vehicles on their hands. Especially since Trump closed the Straight of Hormuz.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It’s not just that, but yeah, some changes aren’t incentivized by quarterly profits. The Chinese government did help with planning and incentives to help manufacturers transition to new technology and to build out the supply chains they would need.

Now they’ve made the transition to new technology, established supply chains, scaled up, and have strong competition to keep progressing rapidly.

US government tried at various points, only to have progress thrown away by the next administration. So now we have protectionism. Consumers pay more while legacy manufacturers milk obsolete technology for a few more quarters of profit……. While losing any hope of competing globally

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In other news, Coke asks Congress to ban Pepsi.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I ask congress to ban congress. Anarchy is preferable to fascism.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Eventually the US auto market will be eaten alive. Lower cost vehicles cannibalize US manufacturers revenue and their business model requires large revenues, even when profits are low or nill.

The reason to be concerned is Chinese vehicles are equipped with all the sensors necessary for a distributed spy network. I don't think there's any way to guarantee data stays in the US. Chevy, Ford, etc will use this for reason to not change, given the government has an interest in keeping out Chinese vehicles.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Such bullshit. You're buying into exactly what the American propaganda bubble wants you to believe. The US is now pretty much the only country in the world banning Chinese EV's.

It has been proven that there is no distributed spy network. Unlike the ability to disable features in the F35 which is why most European countries are moving away from any American tech. Talk about spyware.

But please keep buying outdated American combustion cars with no innovation. Or Teslas that don't even pass the basic safety tests in Europe and can't be sold anywhere outside the US. I'm loving my Xiaomi SU7, just like Ford CEO who refuses to give it up.

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