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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51634640

A new Gamers Nexus investigation found a retail LG TV actively scanning the local network for phones, laptops, smartwatches and other connected devices, while also capturing microphone audio when the screen appeared to be in standby. The investigation found voice data being stored locally even after the TV was disconnected from the network, with the queued data uploaded once connectivity returned. Researchers also uncovered webOS vulnerabilities that could potentially turn the television into a remotely controlled surveillance device. The really unsettling part isn't just the advertising angle. It's the fact that a consumer television can sit inside your trusted network, enumerate other devices, access a microphone, store collected data locally and communicate with external infrastructure. Put that same device in a corporate office, hospital, hotel or conference room and the security implications become considerably more serious. I went through the investigation in detail, including the network scanning, microphone behavior, ACR, webOS attack surface, offline data collection and practical mitigations

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[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Bosch fucking dishwashers do this, once connected there is no way to disconnect them so I sink all its outgoing traffick at the router level

Complete garbage

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, what kind of idiot wants an internet-connected dishwasher?

How about an AI-powered pair of chopsticks?

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In a perfect world?

I'd love access to diagnostic data. Is the filter starting to clog? Is any part not working as intended? I'm a big fan of preventative maintenance, but also really bad at sticking to an arbitrary recurring schedule (e.g., clean the filter every 6 months). This could also be accomplished with Bluetooth and an offline-only app on the phone.

In the real world? Nobody provides this, and the privacy risks aren't worth it.

I do have my dishwasher on a ZigBee power meter to 1) track energy use and 2) give me a good-enough estimate of time remaining by starting a 2h timer after it starts.

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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Is this anything a VLAN and Pihole can't fix?

Edit: looks kind of impossible to prevent, if it can access an open Wi-Fi nearby.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this anything a VLAN and Pihole can’t fix?

You can simply put it on a guest WiFi network that cannot see any other networks and just put a password on your main network, it is not that difficult.

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[–] Johanno@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

For now the only known thing to do that works is for it to never to be connected to any network.

Also if a smart tv was connected to the WiFi there is a possibility it won't forget that until factory reset.

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[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So get power strips and turn them off when you're not using the TV.

[–] silicon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also keep them off wifi/network and you should be good unless they're smart enough to try to connect to any open network they can find like some sort of malware

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

unless they’re smart enough to try to connect to any open network they can find like some sort of malware

Uhhhhhhh, bad news there. Many companies have been found to have their stuff make hidden networks and share info these days. I am sure you could figure out a work around if you are savvy enough, but the normal dood? Fucked and pretending this is normal.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If you are going to have smart devices, put them on their own VLAN. They should not have access to the rest of your network. TVs shouldn't be connected at all. Use a PC or android box if you want to stream stuff.

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imagine when it's turned on...

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[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago (8 children)

My LG TV is blocked from my network and always has been. However, the andriod tv connected to it is a different thing, so it's more or less lost cause anyways and I haven't had enough incentive to block the android box from the rest of network since it'd need some tweaking so that casting and other occasionally used features still work. And even if I'd block the android tv box there's still our cellphones gathering all the data, so I'm pretty much just running things on hopium that EU offers at least some protection on my data.

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