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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

And Hill's biscuits. They're the only people who can fuck up a custard cream. Mind boggling.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I love that argument where the AI addict asked if I hate AI so much, would I be able to complete my work without it. And apparently AI all shut down yesterday, and I didn't notice whatsoever because that's how much I use it.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

What about lawns reconverted to preservation spaces with native plants, and an occasional bumbling human meandering about?

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Some people misuse the term so I wanted to be sure

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 3 points 6 hours ago
[–] BeerStainedBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Does this include golf in Wii Sports?

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, because if kids see golf in video games, it will make them want to golf in real life

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

Yes, even in Wii sports the golf courses contributed to global warming, that's why we have storm island

[–] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

I love space tourism! It paves the way for humans to travel far beyond this planet. Plus, in the early days, we might get to see a billionaire become a firework 🤞

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

You can just call it capitalism. Almost every problem with everything listed is actually a capitalism problem not something inherent to itself.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 24 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

All of those existed way before capitalism. Except the ones that require technology more advanced than what they had available.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 14 points 18 hours ago

And several of them were/are issues in "non-capitalist" countries like the USSR and China. (Though, to be fair, those are still state capitalist.)

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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 33 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you! So many AI bros keep going "then why aren't you against xyz?" And I'm like, I am? I can actually have a consistent moral framework?

[–] msage@programming.dev 3 points 7 hours ago

But how do you have such a big context window???

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 24 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

Lawns are fine. Having lawns and nothing else is a problem. Filling your lawn with chemicals is a problem. Most people I know who have lawns don't do that. They also have rich borders and beds and planters and wild areas. I post a different pic everyday here of bugs I find in my garden; the grass and clover and soil itself is full of life. Most people need an open space to play or entertain or whatever, and a lawn - though not a wildflower meadow - beats decking or concrete.

[–] OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, I was prepared to completely agree with everything, but "lawns"? I have ~100m² of grass where my child and dog are free to play within the boundaries. Is this capitalistic of me?

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 19 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

most lawns are monoculture, water hungry and non native

the native focused setups being the few alternatives but those are not really lawns

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 6 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I don't think your first statement is true. Most people I know or places I've lived in or been have a mixed, lived‑in garden where the lawn is one component of a wider ecosystem. Most don't look like the green on a golf course.

A lawn with clover, moss, daisies, micro‑wild patches, little plants I can't even name that drift in on the wind, and healthy soil full of ants and worms and beetles and spiders and things I need to photograph and identify is not a monoculture. It’s a low meadow kept short that hosts plenty of life.

Go take a look in any real garden or lawn for 10 minutes. You'll find life.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Lawns are fine.

They really aren't. Even without the chemicals, they're still incredibly water-hungry and require intensive irrigation in most climates. And even if you have some garden beds around the edges, the lawn itself is still mostly an ecological dead zone when it comes to biodiversity and habitat. Not to mention that it also requires a lot of work (often assisted by fossil-fuel-powered machinery) to maintain.

And all just for aesthetics? Or -- at most -- used as a dog bathroom? Lawns are still incredibly wasteful, even in the most ideal circumstances.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Do people... water lawns? Well obviously don't grow them there then. You leave a patch of ground completely alone around here and much of what ends up growing there is still various types of grass, some of which we also use in our lawn seed mixes.

And what's a natural alternative that's nice to walk on barefoot in the summer?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

A patch left alone will become grasses again because biodiversity in the area has been eliminated and the non native grasses will out-compete native plants.

To return an area to nature requires considerable effort to ensure natives can reestablish in an area and keep invasives out.

As for walking barefoot, use paths or don't go barefoot. Your desire to walk barefoot does not trump the need for a healthy ecosystem.

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Edit: disregard this comment, I mistranslated lawn in to garden/backyard, i am not native english

Filling your lawn with chemicals is a problem

~~Nile~~ Mr. Green sweating in the corner

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 18 hours ago

Call it data prison. Once they get your files, they don't give them out, hold them hostage for a fee you pay.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

Monoculture farming is pretty much the only thing that's keeping billions upon billions from starvation and is pretty much the foundation of society.

There's also not that much wrong with it. You can absolutely do modern farming sustainably, it's just many don't. So, like all companies, farmers need to be forced to do the right thing.

Also, the Netherlands is basically a giant floodplane, and wetre all fine. It's not our fault other places have a skill issue.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

the Netherlands is basically a giant floodplane, and wetre all fine.

...so far.

What with climate change, larger storms, and sea level rise, though ... might get a bit more spicy in the times to come.

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[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

While some of the feats of large scale agriculture seem impressive, the fossil fuel industry and those who sell the machinery seem to have inflated the numbers quite a lot.

Biodiverse landscapes grow a higher density of food with fewer pesticides and herbicides, and better soil health and water retention in the long term. The problem: you need those pesky people to maintain and harvest complex biodiverse systems, and they want livable wages! Best call them savages and uncivilized, drive them away in the name of progess and force everyone to use your machines, fertilizer, pesticides, machinery and fuels.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem: you need those pesky people to maintain and harvest complex biodiverse systems, and they want livable wages! Best call them savages and uncivilized, drive them away in the name of progess and force everyone to use your machines, fertilizer, pesticides, machinery and fuels.

Yeah, you can pretty much only do polyculture by hand, that's true. Are you suggesting we go back to unmechanized farming?

That would be super great for the planet, as it would cause the deaths by starvation of roughly 90% of the population, with the majority of the remaining humans forced into subsistence farming.

Neither corpses not subsistence farmers would cause much pollution. It might be somewhat hard to get volunteers for it though.

On the other hand, you can absolutely maintain a biodiverse landscape AND use mechanized monoculture fields. You just need to give nature time and space too, and that's something most farmers refuse to do. Which is why they should be forced to. I don't see why a factory gets banned from destroying biodiversity, but it's fine when farmers do it.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

give nature time and space

That's what a biodiverse landscape does? I didn't say unmechanized - but there's a difference between running giant machines over 200ha of the same and running a small tractor over a 2ha field. For the landscape it makes all the difference: having 2ha of one thing, then a hedge (that can contain edible fruits and berries), then something else, maybe have pasture with nut and chestnut on it, instead of just pasture.

Even in a small vegetable garden planting different plants together is so much easier. Higher plants give shade to smaller ones, aromatic ones protect pest-endangered ones ... recreating an actual ecosystem is the real deal.

Todays' rural areas are empty of people. They were bought out by those people who consented to being enslaved by the machine and fuel complex. The ones who were forced to leave had to become wage slaves in the cities. The ones who run the system now don't even want to touch the soil anymore! They just send a fucking drone to analyze where to dump how much of their chemicals. It's not a sustainable way of managing soil and water.

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