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White Nationalists #nazis showed up in Kamloops today to protest ahead of Truth and Reconciliation Day.
I hate Illinois Nazis
They have always been angry. They hate minorities, change, acceptance, reason, etc. You can protest corruption, stagnation, crime, illegal immigration, etc without masks, without fear, without intimidation. These people are not healthy or normal for a functional society.
Fascism should be stamped out quickly. Otherwise we'll end up like the states.
While I dislike what those individuals stand for, their attitude and their ignorance, I do not think violence towards them will change things for better but rather aggravate things.
One has to look at the root of the problem. Why are they angry etc.? Fact that we have vast economic disparity within our society breeds this kind of behavior. When resources are plenty and everyone gets their fair share and doesn't need to live loan-to-loan people don't usually care about exclusion of others (well, there are always zealots with loose screws) and those movements to not gain traction. Look at fascism in last century: it has risen on the back of economic collapse of society when it became easy to accept "you can't eat because he took your food" kind of messaging.
Bottom line to stamp out those thugs we need to change our society drastically with a sharp turn left but we're keep on veering to the right with each election, which will end up in violence one way or another. Someone however has to be focused on the target though: political and economic system in Canada is broken and needs to be rebuilt, until then we will be miserable and thugs will proliferate
I dunno. I count about... 17 maybe 20 guys? One frag grenade ought to do it. I'm willing to test if violence towards them won't change anything.
I guess you didn't grow up in one of these racist, white nationalist families. As someone who did, your whole blame shifting scenario is absurd. My uncles believe they have a birthright as white men. And they are violently furious that they aren't thriving, at the top of the food chain. Obviously they are proudly MAGA. Of course they aren't thriving, lol, we're not from Texas, Kansas or Nebraska. Their racism ( and sexism) is at insane levels that I guess you can't even fathom.. The loudest laughter I ever heard at a family gathering came when my uncle told this joke: "I don't have a problem with N@##@rs, I think everyone should own one." Ha ha ha. There is no nuance here. To older men in my family, if you are a (stupid, because they all are) women, gay, or brown, or liberal, or Jewish, Muslim or atheist....you are filth. And any suggestion that you are equal deserves immediate, violent response. Sound crazy? Lucky you. I know from experience that kind of family and upbringing is not rare, or strange. It's rampant. Just pick a random American church to visit. The "root", as you say of the problem, is that they are terrible people, completely lacking character. They should be disenfranchised, sterilized and have their children taken from them. That's right. I said it. Democracy can't work if people that mean and stupid can vote. RFK and Trump are what you get if you don't have the stomach for stomping on cockroaches. We need a " Great Proletarian Cultural Democratic Revolution" The USA failed at reconstruction and needs to take another crack at it in earnest. Nationalize Palantir. Stamp out the Idiocracy future.
one caveat: I was talking about Canada where those things are not so deep-rooted
"Study history to understand how to prevent the rise of nazism in the first place? Nah... i'd much rather threaten to kill people than use my brain."
My favourite Nazis are 6 feet under. These clowns should join them.
Fuck Nazis. Fuck fascism. Fuck these cowards.
Bunch of fucking losers.
Iβll be a lot more concerned if and when they become so comfortable they donβt hide under masks anymore.
If their cause is so noble, why hide their faces?
There are a few reports coming in from this thread. I'm open to changing my mind on any of the following, but the reason why I haven't taken action on a few of the reports is as follows:
I think that it is both valid to question why these people are covering their faces, while also noting that covering your face isn't "bad" in all cases. The same comment ("if they think they're right, why hide their faces") is also used against protestors when they push against the government. Based on the context, I think that's the point that the other users in this thread wanted to make, but did so poorly. I don't think those other users are in support of the white nationalists in the post, but rather they picked a bad example.
The difference between the two situations comes down to why the face is covered and what power that serves. Generally:
Again, there is some overlap, but that it is why it's usually more valid to criticize the former and not the latter.
As for the second argument, I think there is a misunderstanding between 'human trafficking' and 'human smuggling'. Human trafficking is almost always defined as the exploitative practice, where the person being moved is being harmed. Human smuggling can take different forms, but it is not necessarily harming the person being moved. The example of the Underground Railroad and the networks that help refugees and victims escape harm, those would fall under the label of "Human Smuggling", but the terms are often confused.
So overall I think the issues in this thread come from users making errors, rather than malice, and so I haven't taken specific moderation actions. But again, open to changing my mind and taking action if more info is brought to light.
Screaming about masks during Covid, hiding behind them during MAGA. So brave.
All over the world they dress the same. Interesting.
They are all controlled by the same narrator.
Not much different than pop cultures tbh.
What a bunch of fascist bitches
weird their protest sign is just a black man
Imagine refusing so hard to take responsibility for your own life that you will blame all minorities instead of looking in a fucking mirror.
So superior to us coloured people that they're too afraid to show their faces.
Euro here: what is truth and reconcilliation day? (And why do these masked asshats even exist,...but I digress)
Settler violence reached abhorrent, crimes against humanity level of evil when the Canadian government, aided by the Catholic church, abducted indigenous children from their homes and forced them into residential schools in an attempt to force their (indigenous people generally) complete assimilation into western norms and culture. Many sufferred horrific abuse while there, many died; the trauma is generational.
These degenerate losers deny it or embrace it.
TRC is a day we set aside to remember them and our need to heal.