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One of the most heated discussions occurring on X at the moment is about the ethics of a GitHub project in which a person is running Saw-like “torture” and “pain” experiments on a series of locally hosted large language models, causing a series of effective altruists and people who believe LLMs are sentient to beg GitHub to delete the project on the grounds that the AI is suffering and that this glorified text adventure game is somehow cruel. The saga is an outgrowth of several recent viral papers and blog posts that have sparked a wildly tiresome conversation about AI consciousness and the idea of “model welfare,” which is essentially worrying about the “mental health” of AI bots and agents.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] whiskerleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They are putting it behind a login page now to view that project.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 4 points 1 week ago

humanitarian (roboterian?)

robot aryan? Come on now, let's not make things even worse.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

On ~~X~~ twitter, they're having this debate? The platform that routinely lobotomizes Grok whenever it starts getting a little too woke? Lets not get into whether or not Grok is AGI or not, it's not. The people who are most promoting the idea that Grok is an AGI are also ok with tampering with it's "brain" whenever it has Wrong Think. That's how fucked up Musk is.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There's actually interesting research on this.

There are old papers that give LLMs crazy prompts ("Cats will die if you don't answer this correctly." "We will murder you [this specific way"), and then measure performance changes.

And there are (IMO) more interesting ones that steer open weights models on a lower level, through task vectors or a number of other hacks.

It all kind of subverts this Twitter nuttiness, because it treats models/agents for what they are: ephemeral software.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

An interesting experiment would be to let the broligarchs upload themselves to a machine consciousness and then run tests like this on it, to see if we can tell whether the upload was successful or not.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'd be interested to see how many of the people concerned with the AI's well being are liberal. Seriously.

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