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[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember how the housing bubble never popped?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Uh are you ignoring the huge financial crises, and how banks had to be bailed out?

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[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (17 children)

At this point, I'm not sure it will crash anymore. Reasonably it should have crashed months ago! Why didn't it?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

Starting to look like the nuclear fusion energy thing. "It's going to be ready in 20 years!", they said for 50 years.

[+] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

AI is good at a few things that have real world value. It recently dropped 200+ mathematical proofs that are real and genuine but are the lowest hanging fruit - they're the least creative unsolved problems in maths (now solved), ones that could be solved with enough time and work. Not a proof of intelligence, just a proof of computational power/duration.

That sort of large "solution space" exploration is stuff mathematicians might not have the time/patience for, but LLMs can do.

Likewise, producing content faster than humans can is another thing LLMs are really good at, with some reports already saying upwards of 50% of new content posted to the Internet is now LLM generated (dead internet theory).

https://www.pewresearch.org/data-labs/2026/08/20/how-much-of-the-internet-is-written-with-ai/

LLMs have also recently taken over game development, and gotten to the point that they're making full 3D scenes, and even videogames.

...and if you haven't heard, a team recently duplicated the Adobe Creative Suite of programs in about a week. Vibe coding in Rust with lots of Claude Opus.

Yep, it looks like "AI" is here to stay.

The biggest concerns are probably: it being able to "flood the zone" of content pushing certain ideas/narratives. Either from tech billionaire fascists, or foreign influnce campaigns.

So determining, monitoring, and countering any biases from that is probably going to be a huge challenge.

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

For the AI bubble it doesn't really matter if AI is good at a few things as long as they are bleeding money at an unprecedented rate.

Expenditure is still over ten times industry revenue and it doesn't seem to change in the near future. The only one making any money is nvidia with their chips.

As for the supposed things they are good at, that's a whole other story:

Half these mathematical proofs are pretty much stolen from different researchers. Ive seen an article were the ai copied the intro of a draft one for one and now openAI tries to claim ownership. The other half could be utter bullshitt since they aren't verified right now. That whole thing is essentially a publicity stunt without much substance until everything is cleared up.

While AI is much faster at producing content than humans, purely ai generated contend is still shit. It probably is great for radio pop/country music and Hollywood films since they follow a very predictive standard, but everything that isn't hot garbage from the get go needs human input. The main use of the created content right now seems yo be deception and missinfromation, which is great for some people but a really bad thing to base an entire industry on.

As for all the "decompilation" projects going on right now, they essentially copy past the UI and then vibe code the rest. That's neither reverse engeering nor decompiling, that's just a copyright lawsuit waiting to happen. Instead of putting effort into open source projects these projects try to steal everything (as AIs do) and end up with a somewhat functional product that has questionable stability, unknown security holes and a codebase that can never be expanded on cause no one understands it while simultaneously being a legal nightmare to work with since its a copyright infringement and has no applicable license.

I agree that its sadly here to stay, but none of its current capabilities could reasonably support the AI bubble.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

The question is, can i defend having billions in data center hardware that i can't turn on and might not be in demand when i can? Will people be running efficient local models instead of paying for my spyware riddled software as a service?

[–] Datz@szmer.info 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: All that shit expensive as fuck. Why rush math proofs with AI rather than doing it 100x cheaper by paying a young mathematician over a few years? This isn't paying AI 100 million dollars to cure cancer, that might actually be worth it.

Even if some problems can be solved cost-efficiently, most of the proofs so far is showing off, ignoring costs.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The countries that pay human mathematicians will fall behind because the ones that do not give a fuck will use AI anyway and dominate the future of global economics because they can do it faster and not have human-centric morality like yours in the way.

[–] Datz@szmer.info 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok? How will they dominate it? My point was that the math problems AI has been solving don't really have much of a use that typically gets you money or other resources. I believe I mentioned that medicinal uses, as well as statistical, programming etc. are welcome, but these ain't it.

A better comparison may be that this is rushing all resources to organize a mission to Mars. Very cool, very powerful, might get some tech developed in the process. But if a country the size of a continent enters an economic crisis, why tho?

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Here is an academic source showing how economics between USA and Europe are widening due to the slow acceptance or revulsion of AI/LLM tools in Europe.

Here is another talking about how economics between countries that were slow to adapt emerging tech, specifically AI, are falling behind at a logarithmic pace.

This is another source where it measured significant economic improvements where areas in China had marked improvements in quality of life due to rapid adoption of AI tools.

Another academic source covering the improvments of various African countries that accepted rapid adoption of AI tools and how their economies essentially exploded due to increased productivity.

I can provide more, but you sound like you had already made up your mind about AI, so I’m not gonna convince dipshits around the world about the reality and inevitability of this being a ubiquitous tool; there is no fucking bubble to pop, Pandora’s Box is open. You sound like a scared luddite, and I dont care to alleviate your fears.

That, or I have no reading comprehension and misunderstood your point-of-view, which ironically AI would have helped me understand if I used it in such a tedious way.

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[–] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Most people can't imagine the technology continuing to progress. They don't want to even consider the possibility that it might not be a bubble at all. They'll continue to move the goal posts and dig their heads further into the sand. "AI can't do math", "AI can't do image recognition", "AI can't create videos that are on par with the real thing", "AI is just a fad", "AI will only take the artist's jobs", "AI is worthless and the bubble is going to pop any second now!".

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I doubt that we will get much better prices when the bubble crashes.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 17 points 1 day ago

The bubble popping will take out a huge chunk of the economy with it. We might not be able to afford more drives even if they come down in price.

[–] Jenthura@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

How long is this going* to take?

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 1 day ago

@cm0002 No good answer for RAM right now but with respect to GPUs, consider Intel Arc. I purchased a B50 Pro for a whole of $300, it's turned out to be a reasonably solid performer. I have SR-IOV working on it now a vf for a windows vm, and one for LLAMA inference, I'm using a mamba model so unlike the big boys my LLM learns on the fly. And this thing draws a whole of 50 watts so you don't need your own nuclear power plant to run it.

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