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The Suisse should boot Yen out of their country.
this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2026
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Yeah, I canceled my sub. I have no idea if the CEO of my new email provider is any better, but I know that Yen is abusive to his employees, and that matters to me. I know he's deep in the throes of AI psychosis, and that makes me not trust him at all. I'm gone.
Slagging off his employees, slagging off his customers. Real bright spark this guy.
I feel like a good rule of thumb for Andy to say something, seemingly publicly or privately, is to just take a breath and then shut the fuck up instead. It seems like nothing he ever says brings comfort and confidence to his company's users.
I highly suggest Thundermail (tb.pro) if you wanna switch to a libre email provider. Mozilla hosts stalwart and their own libre mail client for you, along with providing 15 mail aliases and 3 custom domains, for a small price. I have been using it as my daily since past few months. I haven't found any bugs despite it being in beta.
I signed up yesterday. Really liking it so far but I'm still messing around with it. Do you have your app synced? I'm trying to figure out if I can change the settings on one PC and have them affect another PC/phone without exporting.
Thunderbird application settings being client side, have a separate sync design, unrelated to thundermail. I don't remember whether they finished it, but I do remember they were working on a sync feature.
Got it. I suppose Thundermail is new so they're still working on things.
Too late Andy. You are not going to be part of the tech overlord aristocracy, no matter how much you simp now.
Maybe it's a good thing for you. May avoid the french doctor's invention that way.
Some people should just never hold any sort of power. Most people shouldn't, but some motherfuckers in particular.
The original 404 Media article.
404 Media is a great publication with a strong track record. They are worth paying for.
When someone shows you who they really are, believe them the first time. And sadly, this is who Proton is right now, this guy. And this is who the Proton board is, people who support this guy and his vision.
This is proton. Shop accordingly.
This guy sounds like a Mini Musk and I hate Musk.
Never used them because their software wasn't open source, and thus meant I would be unable to switch to another provider. Seems I made the right choice.
As much as I think this Andy fellow is a douche, I appreciate Proton is encrypting all my stuff, which is still way better than gmail. For that, I will continue paying for the service. It's just so much work to switch over email - I don't want to have to do it again.
I mean it only matters if the person you communicate with is also on Proton. All correspondence you have with anyone using Outlook/Gmail will still allow Microsoft/Google to read your emails
Everyone go vote at their feedback website. There are several posts in the General Suggestions section that suggest Andy Yen step down. Mark them as critical.
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He's literally why I never signed up with Proton. Bullett dodged.
Same, and a got a lot of downvote for saying I didn't trust them. Custom domain + 1Tb nextcloud is my jam and really not that expensive.
Is it selfhosted
Same here. I am really getting tired of managing my exim4 setup, but since he made the trump comments I didn't trust him or proton by extension.
I am, once again, offering to take over as CEO of Proton.
My work focuses on nonprofit-stakeholder-government relations. Specifically how organizations mediate between state agencies and stakeholders. No agenda beyond aligning mission, vision, and values, and keeping it that way.
Reach out if you prefer that to help guide Proton somewhere other than the trash bin of distrust.
You habe my vote!
Huzzah! I'm getting more votes than I ever did for school government!
I've heard enough. If I was on the board, you'd have my vote. ✅
Thank you virtual non-board member!
You're welcome. 🤝🏾
Ok it is yours good luck
Your confidence in my abilities is both recognized and appreciated.
It's a bit surprising how many CEO's express disdain for their users and employees.
When employees are reduced to an "input resource" number on a spreadsheet, and they sit insulated from user complaints, and likely surround themselves with sycophants, I suppose it's inevitable.
Power corrupts, you can see it all around us once you start looking.
Power corrupts, you can see it all around us once you start looking.
Yes, but also the corporate world has a nasty tendency to promote psychopaths to CEO positions because they think a lack of humility is the same as competence.
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