GamingChairModel

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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Why does this image look like an AI-generated screenshot? The letter spacing and weights are all wrong.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

They prosecuted and convicted a guy under the CFAA for figuring out the URL schema for an AT&T website designed to be accessed by the iPad when it first launched, and then just visiting that site by trying every URL in a script. And then his lawyer (the foremost expert on the CFAA) got his conviction overturned:

https://www.eff.org/cases/us-v-auernheimer

We have to maintain that fight, to make sure that the legal system doesn't criminalize normal computer tinkering, like using scripts or even browser settings in ways that site owners don't approve of.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

That doesn’t logically follow so no, that would not make an ad blocker unauthorized under the CFAA.

The CFAA also criminalizes "exceeding authorized access" in every place it criminalizes accessing without authorization. My position is that mere permission (in a colloquial sense, not necessarily technical IT permissions) isn't enough to define authorization. Social expectations and even contractual restrictions shouldn't be enough to define "authorization" in this criminal statute.

To purposefully circumvent that access would be considered unauthorized.

Even as a normal non-bot user who sees the cloudflare landing page because they're on a VPN or happen to share an IP address with someone who was abusing the network? No, circumventing those gatekeeping functions is no different than circumventing a paywall on a newspaper website by deleting cookies or something. Or using a VPN or relay to get around rate limiting.

The idea of criminalizing scrapers or scripts would be a policy disaster.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

gaining unauthorized access to a computer system

And my point is that defining "unauthorized" to include visitors using unauthorized tools/methods to access a publicly visible resource would be a policy disaster.

If I put a banner on my site that says "by visiting my site you agree not to modify the scripts or ads displayed on the site," does that make my visit with an ad blocker "unauthorized" under the CFAA? I think the answer should obviously be "no," and that the way to define "authorization" is whether the website puts up some kind of login/authentication mechanism to block or allow specific users, not to put a simple request to the visiting public to please respect the rules of the site.

To me, a robots.txt is more like a friendly request to unauthenticated visitors than it is a technical implementation of some kind of authentication mechanism.

Scraping isn't hacking. I agree with the Third Circuit and the EFF: If the website owner makes a resource available to visitors without authentication, then accessing those resources isn't a crime, even if the website owner didn't intend for site visitors to use that specific method.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 91 points 23 hours ago (23 children)

Fuck that. I don't need prosecutors and the courts to rule that accessing publicly available information in a way that the website owner doesn't want is literally a crime. That logic would extend to ad blockers and editing HTML/js in an "inspect element" tag.

How does this compare to Maia, which is a similar project for an engine that's supposed to play more human like?