I 100% agree. my response was intended to be sarcasm about how full of shit they are. as if they only trick themselves into believing it in the moment and as soon as the moment passes so does their belief.
That isn't to say I think they actually believe anything they say. I foolishly thought the sarcasm was obvious, I should probably just add /s bt efault.
Yeah thats tough. I hate when they do that. The beauty is, it doesnt matter. Usually I just drop a mid number and agile seems to give the flexibility to change that as you identify the true scope of work. Do what you can in the sprint, but eventually update the points to match or break it up and adjust points best you can at that point. Given I haven't been doing agile long, so I could be missunderstanding how it should work.