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The new Fantastic Four movie didn’t have any political messaging in it that I could discern.

No, you don’t understand my point, and that’s kind of sad, because my point isn’t that hard to grasp. I’m tired of explaining it though, so have a good night.

I don’t like it when comics do it either. What’s your point?

The part where he makes aspects of the story clearly allegorical to real-world events. Are you seriously debating that he’s doing this?

Edit: And it’s James Gunn. Sean Gunn is only in there for a cameo.

I’ve read plenty. You just don’t understand my criticisms of this film. Not my problem.

Nah, I don’t pander to pissants.

I can see you’re running out of juice, so I won’t press you further. Have a good night.

No, it wasn’t the whole point of the movie, it was a thinly veneered plot that mimicked and commented upon real-world events. The central themes of the film were about identity being defined by one’s choices and actions, rather than one’s genetics or parents’ wishes. Films that explicitly critique society are films like Brazil or The Manchurian Candidate, and I have no problem with them because they’re explicit in their purpose at being political commentary. Making a superhero movie that’s purpose is rebooting the DCEU and inserting a political message into it is not explicit at all.

No, you don’t understand my point, because you think I’m talking about Superman’s “politics.” I’m talking about James Gunn’s politics and him using Superman as a mouthpiece for them. Superman doesn’t have politics in the sense I’m talking about. He’s just on the side of freedom, peace, and good. Classic moral tropes that virtually everyone supports, because without context, they’re just ideals. When you contextualize them with modern, real-world events though, they become political messaging, and that’s what I don’t like in a superhero movie.

No, I just don’t like political messaging in my superhero flicks. You’re misunderstanding my point (possibly intentionally, idk, it’s really not that complicated).

I liked the movie, but could have done without the messaging. I dislike political messaging in media even when I agree with the message, because I’m going to said media to escape reality. I don’t need a reminder about it, and I particularly don’t need some allegorical moral instruction, like I’m some sort of child.

I think there’s a place for political messaging in film—like when it’s the explicit purpose of said film—but I don’t like it being wedged in just anywhere.