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I can't fathom anyone reading Obama's boilerplate bullshit, for example, and having a positive reaction.
The left is going to be neutral or (more likely) angry about it. The right will still hate him so no benefit there either. Who is he tweeting for?
Why say anything at all when we're all obviously so fuckin tired of words.
You...want a former President of the United States to stay silent on political killings in the country? I think you've had trump as president too long as you are normalizing him condoning or enticing people to violently go after his political opponents.
It might be premature to call it a political killing. After all we don't know anything about the shooter. Maybe he was shot by a parent angry that Kirk molested their child.
Yes, I do.
I'm not saying he should have come out in support of it, I think he should have said nothing. I'm tired of the useless formalities and he is irrelevant now.
I say this as someone who voted for him twice.
I'm not sure you're really in touch with the job of a politician. Obama isn't expressing this regret because he liked Kirk. His post about Kirk isn't sitting down with you having a beer shooting the shit. Its literally Obama's profession to be a politician, and that is communicating policy. Advocating for political violence is a policy (i.e. trumps many words and actions). Coming out against political violence is a policy (i.e. Obama's statement). Silence is also a statement of advocating or at least being tolerant of political violence, hence Obama made a statement condemning political violence.
I also don't think Obama is irrelevant now. He presided over one of the largest booms of recent growth in modern America. It could be argued his thoughts on how to run a country are still relevant especially when our country is in such decline.
Just for the record Obama's not a politician anymore. He's not running for anything and hasn't run any for anything in a long time.
Obama is absolutely still a politician, he's just not holding office. Here he is very publicly using that power just last year:
A lot of people endorse candidates. You don't have to be a politician to do so. By that logic Kid Rock would be a politician. Obama is neither holding nor seeking office, nor will do so ever again most likely. He's a public figure. A public speaker. But no longer a politician.
You don't have to be a politician to endorse a candidate, but if you're a politician endorsing a candidate it is certainly to affect policy making you, yes, a politician.
We're just going back and forth on semantics here now aren't we? I'm not seeing anything further to this conversation. Feel free to post again after this if you feel you need the last word. I won't stop you.
How magnanimous of you to surrender the last word here in your second reply to me. I wasn't aware that was such a Monumental conversation. I suppose it still is a back and forth if it only occurs once, though it seems silly to be disgruntled about it.
All endorsements by all citizens are supposed to affect policy that's how democracy is supposed to work. Doesn't make us politicians.
The man with a huge smile on his face as he handed Trump the white house has been an ex-politician for a decade and by irrelevant I meant he doesn't affect public opinion anymore.
Like a corporation tweeting about Pride, it's meaningless.
Again, this is consistent with his policy of a peaceful democracy.
You don't think the next Democrat candidate for president would want Obama's endorsement? Obama literally meets the definition of "Elder statesmen". Also, up until trump, sitting Presidents would frequently consult prior Presidents on policy actions. Reagan consulted Nixon. Clinton consulted Carter. Obama even consulted W Bush. You can bet those conversations affected public policy.
Politicians are still influenced by him but I'm talking about the public...and unfortunately those are two VERY different groups.
I'm not quite sure why you're bifurcating it like that, but whatever. If it helps, consider Obama's words for other politicians that he has to speak publicly and feel free to ignore it yourself, but understand why it is that way and its not pointless for everyone.