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[–] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (17 children)

You know, i used to have more heated discussions about this, but now i feel like I matured a different view on this, at all. I conceive the freedom to chose on a personal ethical base above the idea of punching down ideas just because. Ideally, being vegan is just that, being vegan. You can be whatever... It's not mandatory to be either.

I eventually found out that any amount of rage or hate for that was only projection of my special insecurities.

[–] lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I conceive the freedom to chose on a personal ethical base above the idea of punching down ideas just because.

I agree it's a choice, but I don't think it's a personal one given that there is another sentient being victimized in the action.

A bit on the motivation behind vegan activism:

Say you're against needlessly exploiting animals. And you purchase/produce animal products when there are other options available. You would be needlessly exploiting animals while affirming a contradiction, that would be hypocrisy. Nobody can force you to act on that, but they can point what you're accountable for.

Vegans believe that most people are against needlessly exploiting animals, so they try to show this to people. Confusion may get in the way, but wanting to put on the spotlight what kind of exploitation people are supporting is what guides them.

[–] teuniac_@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Very good explanation on why it's not a personal choice.

This is how I explain it to people: The animals we eat aren't able to stand up for themselves, so some people try to do that for them. Kust like how activists do this for dogs or orangutans. It's not against personal choice, but about trying to protect those who are hurt by the choices of others.

Besides, we all share the same planet and animal agriculture has a big impact on it. So it's not like our choices don't affect others.

[–] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I would like to have a complementary or firm answer to this, but i recall really well the counter-activism that culminated with personalities like Jordan perterson and the 'meatfluencers'. I don't have a clear answer to these issues. Many things are getting expensive too, including meat.

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