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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

To those who've down voted this,why if I may ask? Genuinely curious

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (39 children)

Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.

This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.

And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.

[–] Peehole@piefed.social 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

But this is literally how western media and leaders are portraying this. All bombs are bad, NATO or Russia or China or Iran or Israel I don’t care. And fuck Israeli bombs in particular where and why would bombs by a colonial entity committing genocide ever be necessary wtf?

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s just American, Israeli and other (extreme) right wing media. So it’s not “western media”.

And no, bombs on an actual terrorist’s head are good bombs. A bomb on Hitler’s ass (like the attempted “Valkyrie” bombing) would have been a damn near perfect bomb.

And as for the Israeli bombs – and as I told the other guy – try to read what I actually said and not what you expect to read based on your prejudices.

[–] Peehole@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.

That’s what you said and that’s why I responded to.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And where did it say the genocide bombs are good exactly?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago (41 children)

some pissrahelli bombs were necessary in the past

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

There is not a single good bomb thrown by Israel in history, just like Russia hasn't thrown a good bomb in the history of the Ukraine conflict. The reasoning is exactly the same. Israel, like Russia, is the aggressor, the occupier in this conflict, since its very inception. It's very clear from your comments that you don't read history, and it would serve you well to be less confident about the things you clearly don't really know about.

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a shitposting community. It's irony.
With statements like this:

some Israeli bombs may have been necessary

it seems that you are the deranged one.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ahh it’s grammar. Edited and thanks

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I didn't, but I'm assuming they just haven't heard anyone say that it's good to be nuked by NATO.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

i constantly hear people saying nato is justified on shit they do.

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately. Plus the whole invading a neighbor, murdering the people and stealing the land.

Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn't go as far.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn't go as far.

Genuinely not defending Russia here, but Dubya's pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was if anything even flimsier than the "justification" for the Ukraine invasion, and that war killed way more people, civilians and not.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The estimates I've seen are 300.000 killed in Iraq. There's more Russians killed alone than that, let alone Ukrainian military and civilian casualties...

[–] drath@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just 15172 civilians killed in Ukraine, according to UN, though. About 40k injured. That's the lower estimate, yes, but, in comparison, the USA has committed more than 100k confirmed civilians kills in just Iraq alone.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ok, some in Yemen and Somalia too, but Wikipedia claims the cost of life of the gwot was 4.5 million, and I've seen credible estimates as high as 6.

And I think in this situation we'd only really be comparing Ukrainian casualties to them.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (41 children)

Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn't go as far.

Any point you might've had about land acquisition, separatism, or imperialism, is pretty hard invalidated by this comparison. Like, why add Bush as a qualifier?

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[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately

Bush, even that war criminal didn't go as far

Could you provide us what numeric estimates you're using for both conflicts?

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