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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The problems arise when people start to take more than they give. (...) or someone who can contribute chooses not to and still receives the benefits.

Not a problem exclusive to socialism. Capitalism has plenty of very obvious such examples. Amazon is clearly taking in a lot more money than it is giving its workers or the govt. Bezos and others of his ilk can contribute more to taxes, but don't, they evade them all thanks to legal loopholes and still receive govt benefits.

That’s obviously not true because 99.99% (I’m being dramatic) of owners work an equal or greater number of hours per week than the rest of the employees.

Maybe true for smaller companies. I doubt Musk, Bezos, Sundar Pichai, Zuckerberg or similars even work 40h a week. MAYBE they did, many years ago. Nowadays? Doubtful.

And there’s also the fact that while needing to know how every aspect of the company operates the owner is the one who takes the biggest risks and has the most at stake so it makes sense that they make more than the new hire who has no work experience.

Do you really think that a single person's work can be worth more than 1000x the work of someone else? To put some perspective: someone who earns 20 million a year is the equivalent of having a hourly salary of ~10,500. What kind of miraculous, one-of-a-kind work is worth that? Bezos doesn't know how "every aspect of the company operates", nor do any CEO of any megacorp. Or, to give a better example, no general or field marshal knows "every aspect" of the platoons and soldiers under his command, they rely almost entirely on his subordinates' reports, which may embellish or hide details.

technically all costs of the company can and are taken out of the owners paycheck because the lower profit the company makes the lower the owners paycheck can be

Except when it's taken out of the workers' paycheck who get fired to ensure those above don't lose their bonuses

[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world 0 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

They arent really loopholes though are they, Musk for instance is taking a risk to avoid taxes, and someone else with a low time preference is benefiting by accruing interest by lending him money.

They still pay taxes in the end, and it will be far higher than it would be if we plucked the fruit of their labor now. Except the IRA thing but that cant be terribly common, and again Thiel took a massive risk by not diversifying. But sure go ahead and write a law to take a chunk of that unicorn whenever it is he decided to realize it, it will fund a few hours of government spending.