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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'll never buy a ThinkPad again after the T16 Gen 1 that I have at work. That thing was overheating from day one, absolutely terrible for a 3000€ business laptop.

Besides Lenovo's shitty BIOS issues (which they have tried to fix about five times in the last 3 years), sometimes boot-up still takes a minute to get past the Lenovo logo.

I don't even have a lemon or anything, several coworkers have also complained about the same issues. One got so angry he smacked the laptop a few times on his table out of frustration (no actual damage) and forced IT to give him a different more powerful model with better cooling.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Intel or AMD? Intel purposefully does this. It's not overheating because it's hitting 100c, it's designed to run at 100c in order to turbo boost as much and for as long as possible. Outside of the turbo thick gamer laptops they'll all be like this unless you put them in a power saving mode.

AMD is less stupid about this, but still does something similar.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i7-1260P, I did try limiting the boost, but the CPU runs like ass anyway.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup, same as my machine. PL1 is 64 watts which no way a smaller laptop with normal cooling can keep up. That's just how modern CPUs are designed to run.

When it switches to PL2 and it fully settles down it's limited to just 21 watts which is nowhere near enough for that CPU to stretch it's legs. With the cooler from a dGPU model it handles the heat a lot better (60-70c steady state) but GOD is it still slow. But that's mostly because Intel is incompetent. AMD versions fare so much better.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mine actually has a dGPU and at 20W it doesn't thermal throttle, but it still runs way too slow. Today I tried unlocking the boost again so it goes up to 50W or so.. but it barely makes a difference as the CPU hits 100°C in 0.5 seconds (:

I was even toying with the idea of repasting that crap, but it's a work laptop, so nah. Annoyed the IT department about a replacement PC again. We switched to Dell, so the new XPS 14 looks kinda nice, but when you look at benchmarks and noise it also sucks. So desktop PC it is, I'm sick of it.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

as the CPU hits 100°C in 0.5 seconds (:

Yup, 100% intentional. Any time there's any sort of a load (even opening small programs) the CPU will go balls out to load it as fast as possible, then when the loads done should cool down quickly... Unless the load doesn't stop then it hits PL2 and performance drops off a cliff. Any Intel laptop you buy will do the exact same thing. 30 watts seems to be the sweet spot to me. The factory 20 basically disables the P cores, and above 35 and you're at the point of diminishing returns. If you set the fan speed manually to 100% it will sustain almost 40, but then it's screaming and burning hot.

IMO never buy an Intel laptop unless you have no other options. AMD is much better about keeping their clock in their pants unlike Intel. But they still do something similar. I have a one gen older T14s AMD and it's faster in almost every single way in real world usage.

Dell seems to be really busy trying to be Apple with their XPS line, but they don't have the Apple Silicon that makes their laptops so good.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you set the fan speed manually to 100% it will sustain almost 40, but then it’s screaming and burning hot.

How do you actually set the fan speed? ThinkPads seem quite resistant there, the one software I found for it wanted me to install a driver, which failed as it has security vulnerabilities :-/

I wish Dell would offer AMD CPUs, they are mostly an Intel shop.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

On Windows I use TPFanControl But I think the version on sourceforge doesn't include some installer you need first. But I think the Thinkwiki version isn't a PITA? IDK I found the version that worked and saved it a long time ago.

The software came out in the pre turbo boost age so the default automatic fan curve is almost useless and will constantly change the RPM. I just set it so it starts in manual mode and manual mode defaults to 7 (full blast) so when I'm running intensive stuff I just open the program, and when I'm done I close it.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

Q: Running TPFanControl I encounter strange spontaneous unexpected actions as shutdowns and standbys. Is there any workaround?

A: Newer versions of Thinkpad Power Manager don't team up with TPFanControl well. You can avoid these spontaneous effects by uninstalling Thinkpad Power Manager Program and Thinkpad Power Manager Driver. For testing purpose saving the installation of Thinkpad Power Manager run autoruns with admin rights, uncheck all checkboxes of Thinkpad Power Manager instances as program, service and driver, and have a reboot. You can use Windows Mobility Center as a workaround for some of these FN functions. To reactivate Thinkpad Power Manager check all checkboxes of Thinkpad Power Manager in autoruns again and reboot.

Yeah, no, for a work laptop this is all way too hacky. Somehow ThinkPads are really locked down when it comes to fan control.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One got so angry he smacked the laptop a few times on his table out of frustration (no actual damage)

Built to last.
I wouldn't do it with a newer model though...

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My most recent ThinkPad also overheated an insane amount at whatever use I could put it through, and the fan was constantly running full speed. It was like that from day one, and there was no dust or anything, it was just a terrible machine.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the fan control was a mess too, like you clicked the mouse once and that stupid thing randomly ramped up, then immediately ramped down again. Any time you actually used the CPU it overheated anyway.

I'm actually switching to a desktop PC now at work, that's how sick I got of this laptop (: