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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Why are women even taught/expected to behave like sneaky spies when it comes to romance? "Ok, time to do my personal hair signal that I'm interested and want him to approach"

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I imagine, it has also manifested in our culture for women to exert an abundance of caution and to try to gauge reactions as long as possible, because playing it entirely open can lead to the man developing feelings, and if you then have to break things off, it can get ugly. Some men, even if it is just a tiny fraction, may then turn to violence and rape.

In particular, the men may "blame" you for their feelings and they might feel """justified""" in raping you, because you did tell them that you find them attractive. No, none of this makes sense and I'd need to order another bucket of quotation marks, if I wanted to try to continue making sense of it, which I don't, so let's not do that.


Yes, the same can happen with the genders reversed, but typically the men are physically stronger, which is why this power dynamic made it into our culture, at least according to my pet theory here.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being clear about your desire also means that rejection is clear, and that hurts.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The girl in the OP isn't happy with being ignored tho

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

she won't be happy if she gets what she wants either.

unhappy people invent reasons to be unhappy, no matter what happens, good or bad.

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Probably because historically the patriarchy took away women's rights to be able to choose mates and had years and years of arranged marriages. Then couple that with women being in those forced relationships who could not chose their partners looking for comfort outside of the inhumane treatment of forced marriages and you get societal pressures that taught women they dont get a say in romantic relationships and as such them showing interest had to be covert as it was typically to those outside their prescribed marriage and if caught they could at the very least be socially disowned or at worst be literally killed for it. So yeah im not surprised women have a tendency to be less obvious about it its only very recently in human history that they got to have a say in finding partners.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Only half true, not every western society was made entirely of arranged marriages; those were the norm in aristocratic circles, but for people closer to the bottom of the pyramid it wouldn't matter as much.

Women always had less rights in general in the west, especially after Christianity took over, but it wasn't a case of "every woman has always been at a real peril of being killed if they're seen openly flirting with a man" - similar to how not every Christian country has made prostitution illegal, not even back in colonial times, or how even when it was, it wasn't equally enforced everywhere.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

I don’t think that’s it.

[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a selfmade problem, don't try to pin it on anyone but women.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

It seems women don't know what they want until their choice is validated by someone else.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

plausible deniability. if you don't actually try, you can't actually be rejected.

This is a selfmade problem, don’t try to pin it on anyone but women.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

From that girl's perspective, it seems that she feels rejected, just not explicitly