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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Anybody have un-enshittified 4k tv recommendations?

Mainly want good picture quality for movies + high refresh rate for games.

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The biggest thing you can do is just never connect it to the internet. I even block the MAC addresses so ever if someone tried to connect it, it won’t. Then use an external box like a Roku, PC, or AppleTV to connect to your content.

And, if any TV requires an internet connection to set it up, immediately return it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Exactly this.

"Smart" TVs never go online, never connect to anything but power and an HDMI, and quite frankly..if it didnt risk causing warranty headaches, I'd open teh fucker up and unplug its wifi antenna too.

Always use an old PC/Laptop/Raspberry Pi/whatever to get them online/on youtube/streaming/etc. You have full control over those devices, and can update them as desired and modify them at a whim.

Fuckin hate smart TVs. a bunch of fucking spyware and adware that just makes the device run hotter and die sooner.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

We're gonna need this "requires Internet connection" bit to be in reviews.

[–] crossover@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

LG OLEDs are still great. Mine is not connected to the internet and use an external media box (AppleTV). It can be set to turn on to the last used HDMI input instead of the Home Screen. I never see the LG OS.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

LG is solid as long as you don’t agree to the terms. I get no ads but I only use the internet on it to update the firmware. Samsung is more annoying with their ads.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I only use the internet on it to update the firmware.

You don't even need to do that. I download firmware updates from the LG website, throw it on a USB drive, and plug that into the TV. Actually important firmware updates are so rare that I'm fine with the extra effort required.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

i dont have an LG, but I've only had to firmware update 1 TV in like.. the past 13 years, and that was because it had a horrible issue with the image vertically splitting in half and green corruption across the bottom. Which makes you think hardware failure, but it wasnt, the firmware update 100% fixed it for the rest of its life.

So unless you are facing a major, catastrophic issue like that, I'd say fuck updates.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, i don't have any desire to update my TV as long as I can plug in HDMI and get a picture and sound

[–] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

Exactly. If it's displaying the line-in correctly, I don't see what a firmware update would bring to the table.

It's a display. Once it's achieved being able to act like that, then you should be done for as long as the hardware lasts.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I bought an LG a little while back. Looks good, no need to connect it to the Internet, you can turn on and off all the features you do or don't want.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For now. That can change at any time with an update.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

you can say that about literally any TV brand, this doesn’t help.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hell yeah. I was considering a C5, but saw people online saying ads are present on LG.

I use shield anyway, but I will probably just follow your advice and set default input to the shield

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

No. Mine is totally connected. Use all the apps. I don't get ads on it.

There are ads, but if you're willing to slog through the settings you can get rid of them. I just used a pihole LG blocklist. I really enjoy using the magic mouse on the screen and I'm finding it hard to give up.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mine doesn't have ads. But like I said, I've never connected it to the Internet, so I don't know if it would start showing them if I did. I just use a Chromecast, my Switch, or an antenna.

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I have one connected to the internet due to WAF, but I never signed into an LG account on it. As a result, the "home" page just shows something about signing in "for the full experience" rather than any ads.

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Would you consider an old plasma TV? They won't be in 4K (I think they topped out at 1440p) but there are some real advantages to them (if you can tolerate the disadvantages).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIuKA2DUgas

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Plasma burn-in is scary for games.

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

True... but that was greatly mitigated in later models.

I swear that the motion quality and the deep blacks rival high end OLEDs. Really, really good. So long as you can find a decent TV (like the one in the video).

The issue I have with them is - power draw and heat.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago

My brother in law had one, it was very pretty

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 points 20 hours ago

Yeah I'm still using the last of the good Panasonic VT50 models. It's still going strong with a great picture. We got it in 2009. It's early smart features were retired long ago.

These articles make me shudder what I might replace it with

[–] mghackerlady@leminal.space 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I have one in my room. It gets pretty hot with it and my PS3 running, and I live in Minnesota and sleep in the basement

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

What I hear you saying is you have great taste in consoles, a kick ass TV and a free space heater.

[–] mghackerlady@leminal.space 2 points 21 hours ago

Lol yeah I suppose. Funny story how I got my PS3, I was on ebay and there was a "broken" one listed on ebay for a dollar. The seller said the blu-ray drive wasn't working and replacing it didn't help. That was a good day to be me, I tell ya

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

My LG has been safe so far.

[–] dellhiver@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well what about a PC monitor? You can get u to like 43" and beyond. Obviously they are great for gaming as well.

The other very impractical mention - after TVs starting adding ads, cameras and microphones, I switched to a 2nd hand projector. Most have no smart features.

All you need is a white or off- white wall to protect on to. And the ability to block some light coming into the room.

Downsides:

  • They can be bulky and noisy. Particularly the 4k ones
  • might need separate speakers
  • Not as low latency as a tv but models do come with VRR
  • bulbs do get darker from prolonged use (and aren't always cheap to replace)
  • you might need separate speakers
  • and there are the trailing cables
  • And you'll never get the inky blacks of oleds. But for picture size and immersion for the cost, they are basically unbeatable.

Some can project from a coffee table.

For tv series and YouTube like content, I use a laptop. Then for big movies, I use the projector and 5.1 sound system (mostly 2nd hand as well.)

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

projectors are just not a practical recommendation for most people. unless you take pretty drastic measures to set up your room like a proper theater, the picture quality will be drastically worse than an average TV.

[–] dellhiver@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Indeed, that's why I mentioned a PC monitor first

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Just a heads up that the Smart virus is spreading to monitors, too. In a few years most monitors will be Smart.

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 1 points 23 hours ago

There are still non-"smart" monitors (as opposed to tvs), get one while you can. I would but too poor. My world's full of 1080p trickle down :p

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

A Google TV. That have a "Basic TV" mode which lets you use it without internet.