I've been in the industry for 13 years, a technologist using Linux for 19 years - I think I'd count as a greybeard if I hadn't lasered it off as part of my transition lmao

[–] felsiq@piefed.zip 11 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If you don’t mind me asking, how well does that work? I’m very interested in never having to shave again lmao

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It hurts and it takes a while (at least on my face), and it costs a fair bit depending on where you're at... but when it finally starts kicking in, I would STILL say it's worth it.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I had Lazer done on face, chest, arms, legs, and genitals. You need to do like 8-12 sessions but I haven't had to shave in years. Though there are like 5 clear hairs now that I pluck.

[–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 53 minutes ago (2 children)

Are the many sessions because you only do small areas per session, or because you need to do the whole area repeatedly?

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

Repeated, hair growth happens on different cycles and not all will be active at the same time. Need a short root for the Lazer energy to kill the root and sometimes one hit does not kill the base and needs to be hit again. https://milanlaser.com/inclusive-clientele/trans

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/15zbz45/does_anyone_have_experience_with_milans_unlimited/

[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 1 points 32 minutes ago

You need to get the whole area done repeatedly, the follicles only die if they get zapped during a certain phase in their growth cycle. Typically laser sessions are spaced about a month apart to allow time for previously killed hairs to fall out and the remaining ones to make some progress in their cycle, you can expect to lose like 10-20% of the remaining hairs with each session.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So, instead of the length of their beard it's the length of their socks we should be considering?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 minute ago

Either, and I suppose in a few special cases both!

Both imply a higher chance of tech competency.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel like greybeards were always people who care little for the standards/expectations of society.

They probably have a lot in common with trans people, who unfortunately are forced to overcome very aggressive and hostile societal standards.

But Greybeards have a lot of luxury relative to trans people. They’ve always gotten to do what they want because of competency as a bargaining chip. Trans people as a group generally don’t have that.

Anyway, I’m rabbit holing. We treat trans people awful and they do nothing to deserve that.

Edit: I don’t mean to say trans people aren’t competent, just that greybeards privilege exists because they’ve passed through a specific niche filter that the general population has not

[–] skrlet13@feddit.cl 12 points 2 hours ago

Indeed.

A Transition Plan suggestion (?):

Become a Greybeard
Transition as you prefer
Use your competency to give trans rights to yourself and peers
Be happy and Profit!

[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If I even knew how to get into the industry and become an IT, I would have done it a long time ago. But it seems like a weird esoteric cult to get into

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

IT is what you do when you are good with computers and not so much with people. You get really good at making the magic number boxes work for the MBAs and start explaining RFCs or networking protocols so that they fuck back off upstairs so you can go back to digging through log files and pcaps. It's all just puzzle solving, reading and a crippling fear of social interactions.

[–] Retail4068@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

People it's 2026. Most coders/IT are just fine with social skills.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

This is pretty accurate. When I came up I worked in an MSP. So I had to deal with customers. It taught me a lot about being able to say anything to people. You can break any news to anyone, it's all in how you present it. So I gained people skills.

After I passed through that gauntlet and gained a breadth of knowledge, I went internal and gained a depth of knowledge. And I started out breaking the news in a way that I would break news to a customer.

Later after I proved my depth of knowledge I started being able to be blunt to any CIO or CTO I came across. And most of the time they'd send me reqs or tell me something was happening that required my skill set then would leave me the hell alone to handle it without kibitzing or bumping my fucking elbow.

When I started my own one man consulting shop I stopped giving shits at all. I found a good client and we have a good contract and most of the C levels like having someone on staff who just says what they're thinking instead of sanitizing it. The CIO doesn't necessarily like it but he's outnumbered.

All this really only worked because I did go through a few years of soft skill hell though. Price you pay and all that. Well, price I paid for this path.