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"G-giving aid to Ukraine to stop the murder of Ukrainians by a fascist Russian government is immoral..." (lemmy.ml)
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/politicalmemes/p/1900803/g-giving-aid-to-ukraine-to-stop-the-murder-of-ukrainians-by-a-fascist-russian-governmen

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Only a healthy diet of imperial core ~~propaganda~~ media could bring you to this analogy.

Previously:

Previously:

NATO expansion:

 
NATO in general:

Previously:

Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?

In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.

Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't love the Russian government but I still believe it's cowardly that the only way liberals can vilify Russia is by having the memory of a goldfish and being obtuse about geopolitics, the wars with Ukraine were completely avoidable and so was the ethnic cleansing of Russian Ukrainians, and by ignoring that regular Ukrainians themselves want to end the war. It's particularly frustrating that they pretend Russia is the most villanous nation, too, as if the US wasn't orders of magnitude worse and for a far longer span of time, including regime changes, invasions and sanctions that killed millions of people and impoverished so many more, and as if the US had no responsibility for the proxy war in Ukraine or the extremely cruel shock therapy all over former socialist states.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago

That they were already BlueAnon-pilled by Maddow & friends before the war started sure hasn’t helped.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

tl;dr

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I swear they never do.

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You got my one laugh out loud for the day, thank you for that and the in depth sourcing. How do you have time for that and code dev‽

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

I’ve been doing this for three years, and the same nonsense comes up often, so these are often copypasta from my past comments, including the memes.