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A jury has found Elon Musk liable for misleading investors by deliberately driving down Twitter's stock price in the tumultuous months leading up to his 2022 acquisition of the social media company for $44 billion. But it absolved him of some fraud allegations, finding that he did not "scheme" to mislead investors.

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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Considering he’s made $400B since acquiring Twitter, this was just a minor cost of doing business.

[–] oyo@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

And there is almost zero chance he actually pays this. If anything, it will be a fraction of the amount in 20 years after he exhausts appeals and pushes deadlines to the max.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know, 0.5% isn't a bad rate...

[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, maybe in the US. It is a very strange place after all.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Where do you live where ATM rates are less than .5%?

By the way, using an ATM from the same bank as your card doesn't count, because that's usually free.

[–] DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't think I've ever been charged a fee in Britain. You just use whatever machines are about.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Considering he’s made $400B since acquiring Twitter...

Serious question: How?

AFAIK, Twitter wasn't terribly profitable before they sold to Musk. Then after he purchased it, the enshittification accelerated.

How on earth does this result in $400 Billions in profit?!?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Serious question: How?

He didn't actually "make" any money. He just stole it from workers, humanity, the planet, etc.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He made $400B, not Twitter. That's almost entirely from Tesla and other ventures, not Twitter.

Last I've been able to find Twitter was valued at $33B when xAI bought it. But that was clearly an overvalued sale. Just look at the valuation over time.

And that's just raw valuation which is easily manipulated, not revenue or profit, which can be easily manipulated.

that is the worst chart

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Ahh, okay. I understand. Thank you for the clarification.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not real money, and Musk isn't the richest person in truth, not by a long shot. This is theoretical money based on overpriced companies that are propped up by what I suspect are some rather shady practices and investors using it as a casino stock.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The money doesn't have to be real for Elon to be able to use his stock as collateral for billion dollar loans. So he in fact has real money, that banks gave him, and that he will never pay back.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While true, a recession will change things.

[–] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will only restrict his ability to get new loans, and make his collaterals worthless. But he probably spent most of the money they gave him, and like with twitter, he shifted the assets around in his network of companies, like a thimblerigger.

But that's kind of like saying that inflation will make the rich poor, which is also not true.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

When stocks crash, his loans that are backed by those stocks get margin called, and he will have to sell other stock. If the government didn't bail him out, and they will so this is academic, although he will have to pay them bribes secretly obviously that goes without saying, he would see a cascading effect from a recession because his companies are all so overpriced.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Actually worst than imaginable if you delve deep the psychology of the rich is akin to tumour development. Never forget these rich fuckheads would bet over your misery like a game.

I could change the world for the better with this sum. Hell, even with the fee. Oh well, I'm sure it's best that he has that money 🙄🤮.