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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

But did you know that to eat vegetables, you actually kill them? An innocent life form - dead, just so you can eat. How can you live with yourself?

[–] bluejayway@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Soft and gooey too!

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

it's fucking disgusting. vegans willingness to destroy a life just because it doesn't have eyes, or ears, or a mouth is just evil.

I hope all vegans reincarnate as iceburg lettuce and rot in the bottom of the crisper.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net -4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Vegetables don't care if they die, but animals do. Animals don't like dying. I've asked lots of animals and very few of them were suicidal.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've asked lots of plants and none of them were suicidal. it didn't matter how damaged they were, they just kept fighting to live.

don't you think that's justification enough to show that plant lives matter?

[–] SavinDWhales@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Mine are. They always die on me. :(

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Vegetables don't care if they die, but animals do. Animals don't like dying."

there simply isn't proof for claims like this

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've got two questions for you:

Do you identify as a member of the kingdom animalia?

Do you wanna die?

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

say what you want to say. I don't care for your interrogation.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well there you go, animals like yourself don't like dying.

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

we have something we haven't been able to prove exists in any other animal: knowledge that we, ourselves, might die. animal cognitive behaviorists call this understanding personal mortality, and every time they get close to it, I've seen them go out of their way to say they don't have proof any other animal understands personal mortality.

if you have an animal cognitive behavioral study that claims otherwise, I'd be happy to read it.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

An animal doesn't need to understand dying in order to dislike it. You can just repeatedly stab a dog until it dies, and it will voice its displeasure. I've never done that, but I understand the science is quite firm on the matter.

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this isn't proof of understanding personal mortality

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fortunately, I already moved the goalposts beyond the need for understanding. I said they don't like dying, I didn't say squat about understanding dying.

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

if you want to just live in your feelings about this instead of relying on the science, I can't stop you. but anyone else who reads this should understand that what you claimed simply isn't scientific fact.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 days ago

So anyway, here's the science on pain at slaughter

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/animal-welfare/article/pain-perception-at-slaughter/463284EC5DCD5A60CE674AC004B7E227

The results demonstrate clearly, for the first time, that the act of slaughter by ventral-neck incision is associated with noxious stimulation that would be expected to be painful in the period between the incision and subsequent loss of consciousness.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So it's funny You bring that up because i had a fish that was very definitely suicidal. we did not eat him though.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, give a man a suicidal fish give him PTSD for a lifetime.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We gave it a clean 200 gal tank, friends, food that it was really picky about (he only wanted to eat the tails of the feeder goldfish. We told him he had to eat the entire things. He refused. So we ended up having these three feeder fish with half missing tails called Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner swimming around in the tank with our fancy fish because dumb old Oliver bit they butts off but wouldn't finish the job. Eventually Oliver died by flight, the tails finished growing back, we dug a pond, and Breakfast Lunch and Dinner moved outside to become our koi. 25 cent feeders. They got huge. Gorgeous. Size of my forearm. A friend who waited tables at a Japanese restaurant offered to buy them for the restaurant because he thought they were koi and not 25 cent feeder goldfish. We liked him so we said no, go spend your own 50 cents. He thought it was hilarious. Next week we went to get sushi and their koi fountain was full of feeder goldfish.

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Suicideel is my spirit animal.

“Fuck you, I’m taking you with me!”