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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I hate how the settings app is taking over control panel entries to make them worse and show me the original control panel window after going down 3 levels because the stupid fucks can't design UI for shit.

Thankfully, you can still get to a lot of them if you know the name of the control panel applet.

[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fighting with their shitty "new" UI trying to find the old Sound UI to fix an issue that their new UI doesn't even have a toggle for really chapped my ass.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

This bullshit right here is what finally pushed me over the edge and into the warm embrace of a penguin.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Want to see the advanced settings for a network adapter?

Good luck finding it, fucko

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ncpa.cpl > right click > properties and go from there is my main method.

Otherwise, Win+X > G (devmgmt.msc) and look at the network adapter in device manager

Other than the win+x chord, that works on just about every version I have to touch

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh I solved the issue by switching to Linux years ago lol. I just recently had this frustration happen at work

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Heh, I'm a windows sysadmin, so I use them often enough to know it from memory. I'm almost entirely Linux at home these days as well

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

IKR? I spent multiple hours looking for GPU switching whitelist because some moron in MS put it under "Display" instead of GPU settings or Power Management

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently there's a ton of CBT involved in doing anything in the new Settings app, so it makes sense to only bring over the things you absolutely have to and then send people to the old control panel for the rest.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Computer based training? Cognitive behavior therapy? Cock and ball torture?

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

That last one.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Cock and ball torture?

That's probably UX designers fetish

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Like windows 2000 to XP or Vista to 7... 10 to 11

The eternal enshitification...

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vista to 7

enshitification

Lol, lmao even

7 was better than vista in just about every way.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the thing... 7 is Vista. Just with a new UI.

Windows 2000 is XP. XP just has a new interface. 7 and XP are for consumers. 2000 and Vista are more like server editions (even the pro versions.)

Vista has Aero but also the classic server(windows NT/2000) UI. Even modern server versions have essentially the same classic control panels. And server versions don't have all the extra bullshit(7 wasn't so bad yet, but 10 and 11 are). That's why I prefer to run Windows server as my desktop.

What made Vista/7 great were the under the hood(kernel) improvements, particularly to the threading model. They made safe handling non-negotiable. This retroactively fixed countless programs and improved overall system stability significantly.

There's really no other major differences between Vista and 7 besides aesthetics(the shell.)

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Right, but none of that is enshitification or contradicts that 7 was an improvement over vista in most every way. As you stated, there were numerous kernel improvements going to 7, as well as improvements on locking logic, memory access and (let's not ignore the most obvious) driver support. The two operating systems were very similar, but saying there are no major differences other than aesthetic is not accurate. There were less major differences than xp > vista or 7 > 8, but it was a bit more than just aesthetics.

Also, fuck Server 2016. All my homies hate Server 2016....

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

7 was a facelift to Vista. It changed the control panels back to the dipshit XP-like way. That's not an improvement.

The kernel improvements landed in Vista. 7 inherited them. They "fixed" the driver support in Vista. 7 also inherited that.

I'm a Windows developer. Well, more so was during the release of Vista and 7 and certainly prior. Much less these days. I loved Vista. Worked flawlessly. I've also used 7 extensively. They're (near)exactly the same OS as far as the kernel and driver and API models.

Maybe as support for Vista ended and 7 got continued support. That's really the biggest difference, IMO.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Win98 good

Windows ME bad

WindowsXP good

Vista bad

Win7 good (maybe peak)

Win8 bad

Win10 OK?

Win11 bad

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've heard Windows ME bad, but I've almost never heard someone call Windows 2000 bad

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I was meaning ME (too late too tired). Edited.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Windows 7 was IMO decent. Didn't deviate too much from the old one, and you could still reconfigure it to have same UI style as Windows XP.

Now if you want similar UI get yourself Linux with KDE desktop

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I've always kind of liked xfce.