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[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

As an Afghan friend of mine says, it was not the fault of the US. The Afghan people is not ready to form a western-style government, as it's a land of a hundred tribes where most just think of themselves. This is why the government fell so quickly when the US left. Few are motivated to defend the country, corruption is immense.

In her words, it was totally understandable for them to leave, as they saw this and realized they would be fighting a losing battle for decades by staying.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

In her words, it was totally understandable for them to leave, as they saw this and realized they would be fighting a losing battle for decades by staying.

Shouldn't have started started a war without intending to 'win the peace', in a Marshall Plan sort of way.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty much spot on; the only way for Afghanistan to have succeeded as a democracy would have required multiple generations of occupation, in order to permanently impact the culture through ideological immersion.

Only once the pre-occupation population dies out (or at least severely diminished due to old age) - and are replaced by successive generations that grew up in that environment - would it become self-sustaining.

It’s very easy to dismiss the Afghan people have “always been like that” - all the while forgetting that the current religious ferver is mostly due to a power vacuum following the failed Soviet invasion of the late ‘80s.

Prior to that, the metropolitan areas weren’t all that different to pre-revolution Iran.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

So America can at max half ass all their decisions without thinking of the long term aside from the money the private military contractors made during 20 years? Got it make sure the USA stays the fuck out of the middle east

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, absolutely. My point is more that the US shouldn't have been there to begin with, just like the US shouldn't be bombing Iranian children now.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Perhaps. The same friend is thankful that the US did try to save them from the Taliban, at least.